View Full Version : Would you pay for rapidshare?
Hello,
At this forum (http://www.sb-innovation.de/f232/) section you would see a lot of sites where you can find nearly any file you want. At the end you will feel you need to pay for rapidshare or any other host site. If not you would have restricted download speeds, wait times etc.. some negativites. You would agree with me when the line comes to download an HD show, movie or someting has bigger size. Now i have a two question for you.
1-) Would you pay for rapidshare or any other host service?
2-) Do you see any advantages from downloading there instead of other sharing networks like bittorrent or emule ?
saebrtooth
17.02.10, 09:31
Hello,
At this forum section you would see a lot of sites where you can find nearly any file you want.
Hey Pickle,
What do you mean by "this forum section". Do you mean a forum section at SBI or a forum section located at rapidshare?
If at rapidshare then I would say no to paying, however I do not oppose using my time to view some adds and so paying them.
I'd never pay for RS, cuz they suck! As long as I get high speeds on MU I'm fine! :wink2:
Rapid share has an interesting community. It's like random pockets of people with a really intricate networks of blogs and resources to draw from.
But to me the hosting company itself is just full of out-of-touch marketers. Put up some targeted ad's (READ: NO POPUPS OR PORN), and use that revenue to lower the membership cost. If the price was more reasonable, you'd be much more likely to hook first-time users in to signing up just to download a particular series of large files more quickly.
I'm the only one that votes yes..?:tongue:
It's good to have one.
Hey Pickle,
What do you mean by "this forum section". Do you mean a forum section at SBI or a forum section located at rapidshare?
Post edited.
no never because the reason is you will find all 4 free what you like in the www:top:
1. paying to access to warez? I'll pass... given the facts I have to deal with RS links sometimes and it's exasperating to see the "no free slots available" message I have considered it at times, but in the end didn't deem it necessary.
2. yes, there are some. Bigger retention, you'll find older files in specialized indexer forums, and get good speeds (with a Premium account) regardless of how old they are.
mangathala2002
17.02.10, 17:40
1-) Would you pay for rapidshare or any other host service?
2-) Do you see any advantages from downloading there instead of other sharing networks like bittorrent or emule ?
1) No. But maybe if i win some cash online :biggrin:
2) Well there are some stuff you can't get on torrents and even if its available on torrents it won't have many seeders/leechers. So basically your stuck downloading at really slow speed. eg old tv shows, even some new tv shows are actually not available(on freshon.tv) like Magic's Biggest secrets finally revealed, old games like ps1 - even though underground-gamer has a lot of ps1 games there are some games they don't have and some not in the correct format (NTSC/PAL) i need:smile:,concert dvd's ... etc
I voted no.
I might have voted otherwise if they didn't become such idiots over there at Rapidshare.
ever since they started slowing down downloads for regular users and give this stupid "all free slots are in use" during most hours of the day thus forcing regular users to PAY, I've started to hate them.
they used to offer good terms for even the free users but they became greedy and wanted more and more money..
I would pay as a last resort if there was no bittorrent or usenet or emule or irc or MU. But otherwise I wouldnt pay.
<1><never, i pay enough for my internet>
<2><yet an other source...>
No,never that's one good reason for using bittorrent:top:
DarkSaibot v.1.3.10
19.02.10, 16:54
1) yes..i will..may pay for RS account if i have enough money to pay for 1 year
2) yes i see RS advantage on RS or other filehosting service's when i search for software...always i will find them more quickly on RS and i can download them
nope any thing available on rs is available on torrents why buy:tongue: also check4change addon will notify when slot will open
nope any thing available on rs is available on torrents
Not always.
no i wouldnt pay. why people use it when megaupload is better and has faster speeds i think. maybe good for rare files.
saebrtooth
20.02.10, 12:47
Pickle can I ask what is your purpose in wanting feedback for this particualr niche?
no i wouldnt pay. why people use it when megaupload is better and has faster speeds i think. maybe good for rare files.
It's basically the same thing.RS has more files.
1-) Yes, I would if I had to and have the money. But only rapidshare I think. Because it's the most popular as it seems.
2-) The main advantage for me, as I have used premium before, is that it maximizes my line with single downloads and you don't have to seed back, specially in my case where my upload stream is very low. Another advantage is that there are many forums and blogs out there offering links to content hosted on RS and they are free to join or public, ie don't need an invite for joining.
It's basically the same thing.RS has more files.
But MU does not give you a "no free slots" message 95% of the time nor limit your download speed, and their maximum file size for free users is 1GB, meaning 700MB rips can be found as single-part uploads.
1. No I wouldn't pay for RS. Torrents suffice for me. At times, you do find content on RS which you dont have on torrents, but I have my ways out. I wouldn't pay for RS at all.
2. The only advantage of dl'ing from there would be, maybe, constant speeds. But nowadays, with penetration of broadband everywhere, even on Piratebay, I find torrents, which give me amazing speeds.
Almost all of the stuff that is available on rapidshare is also available on trackers , but I have noticed that tutorials such as those related to lynda, trainsignal, VTC, total training first appear on rapid-share then on trackers sooner or later , that's why I can wait to get them for free through trackers rather then paying to download them from rapidshare.. however there's a huge amount of reading material such as PDF books that are available exclusively on rapidshare but again due to their small size one may download them as a free user .... I once purchased a RS account merely to download 11.5 GB SAP IDES dvds which were also present on demonoid but I download it from RS as there were no seeders available at demonoid.
I also hate downloading movies and music from RS as I can found them from else where.
I have also noticed an increasing trend in sharing files through RS and other similar fileservers links for example forums such as wewantleaks, EOTI (former LUELINKS) and at other similar forums users post RS , mediafire, letitbit, filemachine , megaupload links, this kind of filesharing is I believe brings advantage to the uploader in terms of money or credits and that's why I hate paying for these p2L services.
powerintake
21.02.10, 22:17
FreeRapid download 0.83 does job nicely with auto management of wait time. Now will I pay even if I had money worth it? NO.
saebrtooth
22.02.10, 02:21
2-) The main advantage for me, as I have used premium before, is that it maximizes my line with single downloads and you don't have to seed back
Even with the free service you dont have to seed back. But you have one point and that its much faster with premium.
You can actually download with Premium, that's another great advantage. :dry:
i say no since all this files who r posted by users they have no rights to charge us for it...i know they own the servers...but i am sure they can make enough money advertising!
i know they own the servers...but i am sure they can make enough money advertising!
With the connections and amount of servers Rapidshare currently owns, they'd need to show ads all over the page and that probably wouldn't be enough.
they better off make it members only site with all of the downgrades regular users get
wait times + slow down rates in daylight..
what else?
.. however there's a huge amount of reading material such as PDF books that are available exclusively on rapidshare but again due to their small size one may download them as a free user ....
Also I use RS or MU for downloading ebooks due to the fact that bittorrent tracker have a few :top:
RS, I will not give them any of my money. Even a Premium Account on them has ton of limitations now. I just add the files into jDownloader if I cant find it anywhere else.
I mite pay an other site for premium but only for like a few days to get whatever I mite need that is no where else.
As i heard recently some book companies went to trial with them and from now on rapidshare has to use filter to prevent uploading files, those files which has named with copyrighted lines.
For instance : blablabla_for_dummies.pdf cant be uploaded to rapidshare but with different name, it would be possible to upload. If the information given to me is true.
saebrtooth
26.02.10, 01:43
There are many sites that specialise in this type of linking of rs. All the files uploaded are jumbled characters but on the site it has the real file name and link of course.
RS still makes their money and sites make theirs, there is no competition.
For instance : blablabla_for_dummies.pdf cant be uploaded to rapidshare but with different name, it would be possible to upload. If the information given to me is true.
Seems it is, I read about that on TF today:
RapidShare Ordered To Proactively Filter Book Titles | TorrentFreak (http://torrentfreak.com/rapidshare-ordered-to-proactively-filter-book-titles-100224/)
I often find rare files on rapidshare and other hosters i dont find with torrents and emule like specialized books and non comercial movies. And most sites that upload have extense description on the content of those files. Its great for porn also:p
Its disgusting the time u have to wait and deal with the crap pupups and those NO FREE SLOT IN UR COUNTRY along with the 1kbps download speed makes me sick! But since i got a Download manager i just leave stuff to download through the night, it even resets my modem for new ip :p
Its great for porn also:p
You can find that kind of material without bothering with Rapidshare... or even one-click hosters for that matter :tongue:
saebrtooth
27.02.10, 04:08
Ask anon anythng about porn He's the noted expert in this field especially booty type
emule has many tonns and bt also have many tonnes. Even if u go the free web porn sites I reckon if u watch without sleeping nonstop and without pause from one vid to the next, there would be enough material to watch for many years. But then you would be dead.
Even if u go the free web porn sites I reckon if u watch without sleeping nonstop and without pause from one vid to the next, there would be enough material to watch for many years. But then you would be dead.
Some times quality matters...I don't want to see pixel-ed porn.That's where porn trackers come in..
emule has many tonns
eMule has so much porn it manages to be downloaded even if you don't want it (fakes). This is why you should have a look at the files' known names in the network before you let it download.
saebrtooth
28.02.10, 04:21
Thats a good point about the fake check. Last year when I 'had' unlimited i was downloading 15gb/day
I saw a movie at 2gb it had lots of sources and i didnt bother to check after it was finished I checked the next day and lucky me it had nice porn on it, I didnt del it tho hehehe
Thats a good point about the fake check.
Butcho's mod has filename disparity check. A "?" should appear to the left of filenames if that file is known by very different names in the network. Sensitivity can be adjusted.
I saw a movie at 2gb it had lots of sources and i didnt bother to check after it was finished I checked the next day and lucky me it had nice porn on it, I didnt del it tho hehehe
I once downloaded "Norton SystemWorks" and it was an all-sex porn movie. Thought the same: "at least I didn't waste my bandwidth" :biggrin:
I can seldom, if ever, get anything from rapidshare using their free service, usually it says "all our free servers are busy ... try again later". Now whenever I see rapidshare links, I don't even bother trying!
I can seldom, if ever, get anything from rapidshare using their free service, usually it says "all our free servers are busy ... try again later". Now whenever I see rapidshare links, I don't even bother trying!
I am kinda lucky.I only get that message only when I try downloading music:eek:.
I can seldom, if ever, get anything from rapidshare using their free service, usually it says "all our free servers are busy ... try again later". Now whenever I see rapidshare links, I don't even bother trying!
Exactly the same here. I get that message 95% of the time. :dry: So nowadays I just look for the same stuff on Megaupload or Mediafire instead.
saebrtooth
02.03.10, 04:25
Possibly its to the the file thats being downloaded. If its reall hot then they probably allocate bandwidth so that you will somehow visit another and yet another time.
I remember when i was looking for a demonoid invite I found one file at RS called "demonoid invite generator.rar" (or .zip). Total BS by they leave it on their system so they can get more people to visit. At other times when I dont get the country full error I have to try 1-15 times over a period of a few days then I get it, this was like 1 success out of I cant remember.
summary if u get the country maxed out error ur screwed if u need the file.
I remember when i was looking for a demonoid invite I found one file at RS called "demonoid invite generator.rar" (or .zip). Total BS by they leave it on their system so they can get more people to visit.
"Demonoid invite generator"? Of course that's BS, so I hope you didn't run it.
saebrtooth
03.03.10, 04:40
nah I couldnt even dl it hehe I tried to dl for 1 whole month (stupid RS!). If i were to run it maybe i would have on vmwear:tongue:
If i were to run it maybe i would have on vmwear:tongue:
I'd have gone for Sandboxie. That program is a blessing - and think I used to try new apps directly on my real install before!
And I think you already know this, but just in case someone reading this doesn't: there aren't any tracker invite/Rapidshare Premium account/etc. generators... and that kind of programs are often up to no good. Never enter your login information on those!
saebrtooth
04.03.10, 02:00
I wanted to try sandboxie too but unfortunately it doesnt work on my W7 x64 system.
Yes anon you are very responsible for adding the last paragraph
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even if a generator had existed before and having been out in the open it would not take long for Demonoid staff to know this.
For security measures I imagine Demonoid would change their code generating algorithm once in a while. Also if they used random number generators it could be the case they when you as a user 'generate' the invite code you are actually only being allocated a quota of pregenerated numbers.
A demonoid invite code generator is most likely an inside job, disgruntled staff. If it were a hacker im sure they would do more than just steal their invite code generator. And een if the latter refer to 2nd paragraph.
In short since the file "Demonoid invite code generator.rar" was on RS for so long it "must" be fake.
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even if a generator had existed before and having been out in the open it would not take long for Demonoid staff to know this.
Such generators simply can't exist. Invite codes are only placed on the database once you make a new one. So unless this "hacker" has put his hands on the algorithm and found a way to insert codes in the Demonoid DB (critical vulnerability)...
i still have a rapidshare but im hopeing that soon i will be on more tracks to stop it
jamesbanned
04.04.10, 20:17
i have enough trackers to take care of my needs, thank you very much. i don't spend more money than i have to.
Uninvited2611
06.04.10, 22:59
never pay for it !!!
tokiodrift1
09.04.10, 20:26
99% of the Stuff at RS is Warez.
That means that they're making money with the stuff you could get with other methods.
For the honest user its knda vicious circle where he has to pay and pay...
There is no reason for giving them $$$.
For special purposes there are always ways to do it, like with reconnect-files.
shawshankraj
10.04.10, 04:32
Hmm. never pay for RS..
When i need it i use their free service , i know i's boring but what to do?
When i need it i use their free service , i know i's boring but what to do?
It's boring and slow. :dry:
For the honest user its knda vicious circle where he has to pay and pay...
For special purposes there are always ways to do it, like with reconnect-files.
a vicious circle? maybe in case one is a heavy downloader (or a heavy consumer) without the ability to find adequate alternative sources or without patience to wait or knowledge to use automated downloaders and so on
personally, the latter is sufficient for my rapidshare needs, even without reconnecting
It's boring and slow.
really? afaik after that really slow period & connection problems some weeks ago it was working quite well a week ago with speeds at about 5 Mbit and standard 15min waiting in between, which is quite decent/acceptable
I only got 60kB/s or so last time I tried it, some days ago. Have they increased the speed limit? :w00t:
tokiodrift1
11.04.10, 07:17
They're increasing the speed in the evening and in the 'Rush Hour' you've only a very limited bandwidth,
but if you want to go fullspeed, you have to pay for a Day/Month/Year Acc.
Overall I would still not recommend such an account, especially because you could never be 100% sure if they're logging or not.
However, if you're interested in a RS-Account there are ways to get such an account without giving your identity (-->Buy via PSC).
Overall I would still not recommend such an account, especially because you could never be 100% sure if they're logging or not.
But if you don't care about logging, or live in a country where they don't care about piracy, it sure is a damn nice plus :biggrin:
saebrtooth
12.04.10, 03:58
for me the only benefit that a premium acount brings is if u download a large file and ur connections stuffs up for any reason, u can resume but that can be done with free account.
tokiodrift1
12.04.10, 08:37
But if you don't care about logging, or live in a country where they don't care about piracy, it sure is a damn nice plus :biggrin:
Generally you should care about logging. But if you're on a VPN-Service you could simply ignore the logging thing.
However, I agree with the second point, for example, if you're currently living in spain you've the golden ticket. :klatsch_3:
NO:
- because there's plenty of other ways to get your files.
- because there are ways to get your hands on a premium-accounts without paying .
- because even without premium-account you can use an automated downloadmanager.
- because the things that are found exclusively on RS can be obtained with those downloadmanagers if you have some patience.
I have no problem with them getting money for providing hosting for 'pirated' files. I believe they facilitate the way to obtain free stuff that I normally have to pay for. It's like paying for a seedbox. That can make your live easier while trying to get the things you need on hard to seed trackers. The same goes payservers/usenet/newsgroups.
for me the only benefit that a premium acount brings is if u download a large file and ur connections stuffs up for any reason, u can resume but that can be done with free account.
Really? Can you resume files with a collector's account?
saebrtooth
13.04.10, 02:32
Really? Can you resume files with a collector's account?
If they allow download managers I presume yes
shawshankraj
13.04.10, 03:23
Really? Can you resume files with a collector's account?
yes u can resume your current downloading with Rapidshare manager just like we do in IDM ..
Until today I thought you were screwed if the download stopped or froze forever in the middle... will have a look.
saebrtooth
13.04.10, 15:15
Anyone using free account is screwed if discon happens, but Ive only had it happen for maybe less than 1% of the time
Oh, but that's something else. Assuming a disconnection does happen, a free account isn't of any help, then...
Until today I thought you were screwed if the download stopped or froze forever in the middle... will have a look.
I don't see the problem there? The maximum filesize is 200MB right. So if your download is stopped and you have to restart the download that can't be such a hassle?
I'm currently downloading a 15 GB file (200 MB-parts) with a free RS account using JDownloader.
I've downloaded more than 10 GB in about 48 hours. With a premium account you can only download 25 GB/week so I don't see the problem.
That means I can download about 35 GB a week with a free account. Downloadspeeds are less than premium (+- 100KB/s) but who cares if you are not in a hurry to get your files.
saebrtooth
13.04.10, 16:03
@anon a free account is what I use and I find it is satisfactory for my uses, If I had no choice I still wouldnt buy a premium acc :briggrin:
I don't see the problem there? The maximum filesize is 200MB right. So if your download is stopped and you have to restart the download that can't be such a hassle?
It's exasperating when speeds are so slow, which for me is the case more often than not. :dry:
It's exasperating when speeds are so slow, which for me is the case more often than not. :dry:
I'm getting speeds between 100-140 KB/s ... sure it goes a lot faster with torrents or premium but I'm never really in a hurry so I don't mind if I have to wait a day longer.
So many filez, so little time :)
AsusGraphics
18.04.10, 13:45
Rapidshare's privacy policy: RapidShare: 1-CLICK Web hosting - Easy Filehosting (http://rapidshare.com/privacypolicy.html)
So according that, there should be no identifying logs kept.
I still wouldn't pay them because:
1. They have low monthly limit
2. You can use a free user option, other filehosters, or p2p
Rapidshare's privacy policy: RapidShare: 1-CLICK Web hosting - Easy Filehosting (http://rapidshare.com/privacypolicy.html)
So according that, there should be no identifying logs kept.
You can never be too sure :dabs:
I'll never pay rapidshare cuz there are other ways for to get the same things
Bios Killer
02.06.10, 15:36
Yeah jDownloader can do the work :D
Yes!
Well, actually not all of it. jDownloader won't get you MB/s speeds or simultaneous downloads as a free user. But at least you can automate leeching and bypass between-files waiting times. Personally, I don't mind waiting.
long live the torrenting.. m not gonna pay a single penny to them
Bios Killer
02.06.10, 19:22
Yes!
Well, actually not all of it. jDownloader won't get you MB/s speeds or simultaneous downloads as a free user. But at least you can automate leeching and bypass between-files waiting times. Personally, I don't mind waiting.
What u say is true, but the thing is that I don't even surpass the mb in downloads, so personally it's still a win-win situation i'd say :)
Had paid for it 1c when i did not knw abt torrents... But now... No way.... Going to waste a single penny on it ......
saebrtooth
13.06.10, 04:12
1c :biggrin:? they must have had a sale on. Dont they cost $?
I think "1c" means "once".
SMS language :dabs:
I would never pay for RS. I dont even know what RS is good for....
I dont even know what RS is good for....
Getting less popular stuff you can't find on trackers, and Warez-BB is a huge attic for those files.
saebrtooth
14.06.10, 14:00
I would never pay for RS. I dont even know what RS is good for....
holy sh1t oh man thats the biggest laugh Ive had all day, thank you Frame, now :lol:
I can rest....
oh and its reatioless so there is no need to cheat, no need to register, but they usually put download restrictions like numbers of files / (day) on u
I find it quite hilarious that most people are complaining about the cost over all the other, real reasons you might not like RS. Especially seeing we're on a "small bandwidth" forum here, talking about a service with high speeds which doesn't demand you to upload (read as "cheat", for the people here).
If you take it for a full year (and duh you should), it will cost you a measly 15 cents per day. On top of that, you get enough points from this purchase to get another month for free. If you count this extra free month in the total amount gained, it's only 13 cents a day. These 13 cents guarantee you to get amazing speeds, no upload required and usually faster releases than torrents, especially seeing as torrents need to get spread around a bit first so there are a decent amount of seeders. Almost sounds as if torrents have made everyone super spoiled, as if anything in life is free! Keep in mind that actually buying all the stuff you're getting from there, would cost you a fortune. And yes, I do realize some countries have uber expensive internet. But sadly I am one of them, and I find this hardly an argument.
Bitch about anything you want, but I'd hardly call this expensive. If you can't even pay 13 cents a day. You can find that much lying on the street.
I used to be a paying RS user, until they put up daily limits which, at the time, were quite low. This resulted in me having to get half on RS and torrent the other half. So it became pointless for me to spend money on RS and I just started looking around and found shu mod etc.
IIRC, they've removed or made them a lot higher again, so it's not as much of a problem anymore. I would've gone back, but call it force of habit that I just continued using torrents.
Bitch about anything you want, but I'd hardly call this expensive. If you can't even pay 13 cents a day. You can find that much lying on the street.
I won't find them every day. :tongue:
Not to mention the current exchange rate makes the price of a 1-year Premium account somewhat prohibitive for me.
the thing is Sazzy that even if a huge archive of music similar to What , Waffles combined is available legally for 1$ a month , i can bet you more than half of the warez population wont even pay that 1$ .
the people are used to downloading for free and has become a chronic habit for the people . the feeling of "eliteness" of downloading for free has overtaken the warez population and its next to impossible to remove this . The biggest irony of all is that people will buy the most expensive internet service with the highest speeds and spend on 1GBit/100 MBit seedboxes to leech warez content , but will not spend the 1$ to buy something legally .
Crystal, that totally reminded me of this (http://kotaku.com/5535744/why-are-people-pirating-a-charity-game). It's sad, to say the least. But you're absolutely right. It's probably going to be even higher than that.
@anon: Look harder! :tongue:
Also, I doubt the exchange rate is THAT terrible to completely avoid it. Are they really that high? Even 20-30 cents a day is still low and this is more than double.
Also, I doubt the exchange rate is THAT terrible to completely avoid it. Are they really that high?
~5 to 1.
Crystal, that totally reminded me of this (http://kotaku.com/5535744/why-are-people-pirating-a-charity-game). It's sad, to say the least. But you're absolutely right. It's probably going to be even higher than that.
@anon: Look harder! :tongue:
Also, I doubt the exchange rate is THAT terrible to completely avoid it. Are they really that high? Even 20-30 cents a day is still low and this is more than double.
i just read the article now and thats really shameless . the one and only standard pathetic and senseless excuse with pirates is " those singers/companies are rich so they wont care if i download etc " .they really need to read this thread of how pathetic people can be when all they wanted is to donate the earning of 1$ games to Charity ...
I find it quite hilarious that most people are complaining about the cost over all the other, real reasons
its just as real reason as any other, imo they just don't want to spend more, even if its a fraction of the internet access cost, its still an additional cost nevertheless, not to mention that rapidshare doesn't have that much to offer in the first place and i mean their service (limits, additional premium value) is lacking (not the user willingness to upload there) and not to mention the perceived value of higher speed over better access and so on
even if they were almost free, some things just can't reach a higher level of appeal or popularity for whatever reason, meaning its not just money that shapes people's needs/views
Almost sounds as if torrents have made everyone super spoiled, as if anything in life is free!
quite possible, torrenting may have managed to come as close to a 'perfect' system as possible so far in terms of filesharing, whereas other methods serve mostly as additional means to get stuff, just as a backup option
Keep in mind that actually buying all the stuff you're getting from there, would cost you a fortune.
exactly why people aren't buying it, at least not in the same way or amount as some time before filesharing, furthermore they are getting more aware of their consumer status & the greedy corporate agenda driving it ie. feeding on it
ultimately, its up to the user and his perception/attitude, if they think its worth the price tag they will pay for it, if not, well, tough luck for the company :tongue:
The biggest irony of all is that people will buy the most expensive internet service with the highest speeds and spend on 1GBit/100 MBit seedboxes to leech warez content , but will not spend the 1$ to buy something legally
i'm sure things aren't that extreme with the majority of internet users, also there is evidence that the entertainment industry is not anywhere near bankruptcy, they are just stubborn at letting go of previous cash cows, unaccustomed at consumers exercising some alternative viewpoints :biggrin:
oh, and regarding that 'charity' stuff, just labeling something as 'charity' doesn't necessarily mean its not an exploitative marketing trick, not to mention who would be interested in those games anyway or that the (respectable) cracking teams afaik have no bias concerning who the game(s) authors are or what they stand for (its basically/usually a game of outmatching the (costly) software protection systems, hacking the system so to speak - and if it happened to a corporation, a fitting phrase would be: 'it couldn't have happened to a nicer guy')
read this thread of how pathetic people can be when all they wanted is to donate the earning of 1$ games to Charity
so whats the big deal? those who wanted to donate surely did so :rolleyes:
also there is evidence that the entertainment industry is not anywhere near bankruptcy, they are just stubborn at letting go of previous cash cows, unaccustomed at consumers exercising some alternative viewpoints :biggrin:
i am not directing this to you personally , but thats the most rubbish justification i have seen quite occasionally around the net by many people to justify piracy . its very easy to talk about justifying piracy since our money is not lost and someone else's . just because they are rich and have lots of money does not justify pirating their products , but we do it and we know its morally wrong . so hypothetically if you or anyone in your family is a new singer who releases his first album which will earn a hell of a lot , i guess you wont be happy at all to see lots of potential buyers pirating you or your family's member album rather than paying for your hard earned work , would you ? thats EXACTLY how they will feel .
oh, and regarding that 'charity' stuff, just labeling something as 'charity' doesn't necessarily mean its not an exploitative marketing trick, not to mention who would be interested in those games anyway or that the (respectable) cracking teams afaik have no bias concerning who the game(s) authors are or what they stand for (its basically/usually a game of outmatching the (costly) software protection systems, hacking the system so to speak - and if it happened to a corporation, a fitting phrase would be: 'it couldn't have happened to a nicer guy')
so whats the big deal? those who wanted to donate surely did so :rolleyes:
charity maybe a last resort trick for companies , but in this case it clearly evident this was not a trick . they are clearly not EA or Ubisoft and do not have a big audience to cater for . what they did was a good cause in their own little way . those who wanted to donate , donated but does not mean it was not a "big deal" for the company or the charity institution involved . of course its not a big deal for you since you were in no way involved in this , neither was i but i felt bad as what happened according to me was shameful but thats my opinion . as i said before , its very easy to talk all day sitting in front of the computer and justifying piracy when your not at the receiving end of it .
~5 to 1.
What? That's crazy, okay you're excused from not wanting to pay this! : )
its just as real reason as any other, imo they just don't want to spend more, even if its a fraction of the internet access cost, its still an additional cost nevertheless, not to mention that rapidshare doesn't have that much to offer in the first place and i mean their service (limits, additional premium value) is lacking (not the user willingness to upload there) and not to mention the perceived value of higher speed over better access and so on
i'm not bitching about the fact that ppl don't want to pay extra. It's understandable. Especially since 59 euros is not exactly a low price. I am, however, bitching about this particular case that most people whine about the cost, which is just stupidly low, seeing you get to use the service for over a full year. There are enough reasons to not like RS. In a small comparison, it would take 40 days of using RS to enable me to take the bus just once. 40! So it's just not a big deal at all.
oh, and regarding that 'charity' stuff, just labeling something as 'charity' doesn't necessarily mean its not an exploitative marketing trick
still, it's low to pirate a charity thing. It's one thing trying to rebel as a cracking group and another to block money going to people (? or animals i dont know which charity it was) that actually need it to survive.
Especially since you could offer whatever you wanted, plus the article said "With all proceeds going to charity". Sure you can say it might be a trick to get you to buy other stuff, but you know you won't do that unless you already wanted to.
thats the most rubbish justification i have seen quite occasionally around the net
you're missing the point, its not a justification of anyone's actions, its an observation of their behavior and some digital age trends
but we do it and we know its morally wrong
depends on one's definition of morality and legality (both user & corporate) - none are timeless characteristics set in stone and they change occasionally when the need arrives, i'd say a few tens of millions worldwide users may just be enough to qualify as an expression of this necessity to change previous views on digital media
you wont be happy at all to see lots of potential buyers pirating you or your family's member album rather than paying for your hard earned work , would you ?
well, maybe they need to change the way they are making & selling their products, according to the market movements, maybe they should go out and share their art in order to create/widen a 'fan' base and interest in what they are doing/creating, they should figure it out for themselves if they're gonna do some business...then there is also the option to be a corporate contract slave too
in this case it clearly evident this was not a trick . they are clearly not EA or Ubisoft and do not have a big audience to cater for
who knows, there are too many scams going around as it is - if they are that small i'm pretty sure this media coverage (and subsequent results) did them more good than their 'bundle' getting pirated (or shared, which again creates new fans and so on)
...and no i don't feel bad for them, i've got better things to do with my emotions than to waste 'em on some (questionable) sales/charity kind of thing somewhere
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yet you are willing to spend all that time posting about it
i felt generous today ;) :tongue:
...and no i don't feel bad for them, i've got better things to do with my emotions than to waste 'em on some (questionable) sales/charity kind of thing somewhere
yet you are willing to spend all that time posting about it x3
Well, I would pay for RS, if I had a better connection. My speed really sucks, so the limited speed is enough for me.
No, I wouldn't. Too many free alternatives.
saebrtooth
20.06.10, 04:22
~5 to 1.
What? That's crazy, okay you're excused from not wanting to pay this! : )
u need to also consider does 1unit=1unit, the inflation and cost f living needs to be taken into account too
1 unit although maybe worth less than in USD but that same unit u can still buy more in real terms in the other country.
nei würde ich nicht, allein schon weil die das alte sytem mit dem rapidshare free und premium punkten gelöscht haben nun zahlen uploader für das uppen und können ihren account nicht mehr durch das uppen verlängern
English please :biggrin:
Google translation:
nei I would not, if only because of the old sytem have rapidshare premium and free with the deleted points pay now for the uploader oop and can not account their extended by oop
No, I wouldn't, because they deleted the old system with the RS free and premium points, the uploader pay to upload and they can't get their acc extended if they upload.
That only worked if you're a popular uploader though with enough people wanting to download as free user.
I think the biggest part of RS users didn't even get to use this system.
not sure cuz' i don't have more money :lol:
CARLOCOLUCCI
23.06.10, 18:50
I will never pay for warez
Simply no it's free all over the internet ,lots of alternative i can choose.
Yeah, I bought a premium account because the wait times and download speeds are too slow for a free user. With their new system of rapids it's actually pretty cheap unless you download a huge amount. you can get 400 rapids for just 5 Euro, and a basic premium account is just 99 rapids per month for 30GB of download. If you use the happy hours, though, you can increase that to 300GB. So, you get about 300GB of downloads per month for just 1.25 Euro. Pretty cheap, if you ask me.
Nope torrents are quicker
never torrents is the best
sure not, rapidshare delete to much links!!! and freeware can i download on the internet and not need rapidshare. :D
so you find many better hoster for free (mediafire...evrtime full speed, Letitit...never delete links)
Ultraviolet
17.09.10, 18:46
Friend of mine has bought a monthly account a few times.
At first I was opposed to this - of course you can get the stuff for free anyway.
But if you think about the hassle with filesharing:
First of all you always fear that you'll get in legal trouble. Downloading from OCH seems pretty safe compared to uploading stuff (bitt, emule)
Second: If you move away from the unsafe methods (emule, public trackers) you'll end up on private trackers.
There you have several problems: Getting in, staying in and keeping a decent ratio.
Plus you might not find everything you need on one tracker, so you'll have to spread out - which means more work.
I'm doing the latter, so I know what this means.
I can easily understand that there are a lot of people out there, who'll just buy an account with a OCH, go to some big forum and find all the links they need.
And to all that say torrents are faster: I think you never had premium access to RS - the downloads will max out your connection for sure. ;)
tokiodrift1
17.09.10, 18:54
There are pros and cons for both methods, such as content, speed, security and communities.
Downloading from OCH seems pretty safe compared to uploading stuff
...
just buy an account with a OCH, go to some big forum and find all the links they need.
I am ashamed to ask - what is OCH ?
As for the rapidshare - I won't pay, see no reason. There are several autodowloaders for RS around that do an excellent job.
Also it is not the best server to upload stuff - an uploader's IP gets tracked, a lot of people are having difficulties downloading from there and often ask to re-upload files somewhere else.
I am ashamed to ask - what is OCH ?
One Click Hoster
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There are pros and cons for both methods, such as content, speed, security and communities.
trü, and it seems all but community are in favor of och
And to all that say torrents are faster: I think you never had premium access to RS - the downloads will max out your connection for sure. ;)
True, I have always maxed my connection with Premium accounts and MSD, and have seen screenshots of people reaching 10MB/s. :geek:
Retention in one-click hosters is also much better than with torrents. If the file is still there, it'll always download fast, regardless of its age. Same goes for Usenet, for that matter.
Trü, I have always maxed my connection with Premium accounts and MSD, and have seen screenshots of people reaching 10MB/s. :geek:.
no problem with the most major providers. maybe not for a single file but with a fat line you can use 3 or 4 connections at once
I'd never pay for RS
If you (and the other posters with similar statements) don't tell us why, we may as well move this to the Inquire Around section. Something I don't want to do, since there's otherwise been a lot of intelligent discussion here.
Yep.... though my first priority is to always download from torrents but many a time I don't get chance to seed back 1:1 especially in case of BR Rips.. In that case its better to download off RS.
But now after discontinuation of RS points... am finding very few RS links on net for new releases.. be it movies or apps. My RS expires in Jan 2011... may be won't extend further then.
EDIT:
Another reason for RS..one gets max speed from the start of download whereas in case of if one is late or early (posting time of torrent) speeds are likely to be low.
EDIT:
Another reason for RS..one gets max speed from the start of download whereas in case of if one is late or early (posting time of torrent) speeds are likely to be low.
Does Rapidshare have RSS because it is not likely you are going to get it on rapidshare before everyone is done downloading on a tracker. RSS is the only way I can see that you get it when the speeds are slow. Or if you just sit around and wait and just spam the refresh button.
I would never pay for it.
I would never pay for it.
Please, if you don't want to provide any reasons or explanation, just vote at the top of the page. No need to make posts like that.
No way. Only for megaupload but RS ... no! All new changes drives me crazy + warez forums aren't uploading files on RS anymore (like some years ago).
If by any chance i decide to loose money on download sites making money not that honestly, i'd go for megaupload. They provide a way better service, UI and correct download speeds. Rapidshare = crap in a can for all those things.
the most f***g file sharing site of the world is rapidshare i will let alone a map to heaven but i wont download it from there
may god send rapidshare and its developers and owners and managers straight into hell.
Download Manager dosent pic downloads from there then wait for 74 more seconds after waiting again then you are alreday downloading a file
no resume
pathetic design and 3 pages before dl begins well i wonder if its actually ever begins .:icon_angry[1]:
pimphead07
20.10.10, 18:29
not even with someone else's money.. they are bloody theives
I used too, but before I got into the torrent sites. I found hotfile to be better.
not for rapidshare, but there are several other - much better - ochs like netload (also quite good for free users) or share-online (not very good as free user)
i´ll be true.
I never Would Pay for it.
I would never pay for it. The rapidshare now sux. I can't even get the full speed on it.
RS is really sucks so i will never pay for it or even use it :/
It was once that RS use to dominate file sharing. But not anymore MU, HF etc have come-up with better plans and interface. As long as Torrents are Active I won't be buying any FS A/C. Suppose by anychance there's a Ban or something then looking at the current situation I would go for MU and HF for sure.
I don't intend to have it anyway now because all of files we are in search are already out on torrents as well ;)
Nope i would'nt pay for it..
Why pay for it when you can crack them? ;)
When the private trackers close their membership it is difficult to find many old television, movie, public television, etc. files. I would pay if I had the money. I spend my money on hardware but there are times when I would give anything to get the file faster. I don't like spending forever looking for a file. I belong to several private trackers and they have a lot of files and some fast downloads. I would like a little more freedom and can find it on public trackers.
I would pay for rapidshare, i have RS few times
i dont need rapidshare often, but it suxx if you need a few programs after reinstall windows and you have to wait hours and hours and so i pay for it ^^
I feel Torrent works for me better.I would never pay for Rapidshare.
I feel Torrent works for me better.I would never pay for Rapidshare.
So is it :D
I download mostly HD movies which can be found on torrent sites, so i dont see any reason in having a RS account
tokiodrift1
03.01.11, 13:56
RS is good for fresh Apps and rare/old Movies.
RS is good for fresh Apps
Most people are using "alternative" OCHs for that. At least, that's my experience.
and rare/old Movies.
True, but you can always find a non-RS link buried somewhere in the search results! :wgrin:
I would never pay for a Traffic OCH like RS. OCHs like Netload are the best. No Traffic Limit and always full Speed.
tokiodrift1
03.01.11, 22:23
Most people are using "alternative" OCHs for that. At least, that's my experience.
True, but you can always find a non-RS link buried somewhere in the search results! :wgrin:
Yeah, I mixed up something...^^
I was referring to those OCH's, not just RS.
I would never pay for a Traffic OCH like RS. OCHs like Netload are the best. No Traffic Limit and always full Speed.
I would also never pay for any OCH. :happy:
I will nott pay rapidshare its not that good as torrents . since finding the links are very difficult. Torrents are the best.
since finding the links are very difficult.
Get into Warez-BB and search for something old. See how many RS links you get. I'd hardly call that difficult.
difficulty in piracy is determined by knowing where to look O:
i wouldnt, its not fair that the scene uploads all the stuff and RS gots money for nothing
i wouldnt, its not fair that the scene uploads all the stuff and RS gots money for nothing
RS gets money for hosting it and uploading everything to everyone with their own bandwidth. Both things are not exactly free nor cheap for RS, thus they ask moneys
Yes i actually do have a rapidshare account, and i will continue to pay to have it. The amount of content in rapidshare is immense.
would pay for it if there would be no torrents
ask me 2 years ago and i'd have said yes - now? no.
if you upload, http filehosting pays for itself. rapidshare used to offer awesome deals - i paid about 4 or 5 euros a couple of years ago for a short term rapidshare account (i cant remember if it was only for a week or a month), and the same account still has over a year remaining due to me converting the points from people downloading my files to account extensions.
last year, rapidshare decided to screw over it's heavy users by binning it's points system. fileserve seems to have replaced them, once again providing lucrative lures to uploaders, so they're the one that a lot of people have switched to.
ftps/usenet for the win though... torrenting/http sites are beneficial because you can profit from them, whether that be in currency or 'other' forms of payment.
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