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Secrecy
10.02.10, 23:52
I started cheating as soon as I started private torrenting, about 4 years ago
Started with my first private tracker ever.. Demonoid.
Then after a while I got into TvT.com, It didn't have the strict ratio thing at that time, after a year or so of leaving Bittorrent, I got back to find that TvT.com had a new Credit system, then worked my way there using Netcat (Faking HTTP headers),
Here are the trackers I've cheated on, and the settings I'm using (or used)

Demonoid:
Flash cheating using Netcat.(current member)

TvT.com:
Started with Netcat, then GreedyTorrent.. now I'm using RatioFaker (1.4 x Download)(current member)

TvT.ro:
Started with GreedyTorrent.. now RatioFaker (1.2 x Download) (current member)

IPT:
RatioFaker (1.5 x Download) until now and working perfect, been banned once for cheating with RatioFaker (5x Download) (current member)

TheBox:
RatioMaster (250 Kb/s UP) (current member)

Bitsoup:
Started with RatioFaker, now RatioMaster (400 Kb/s UP) (current member)

TL:
Started with GreedyTorrent, now RatioFaker (2.- x Download) *(current member)

Bit-HDTV:
Started with RatioFaker, now RatioMaster (350 Kb/s UP) (current member)

Bitme.org:
RatioMaster (xx Kb/s UP)* (current member)

Docs:
RatioMaster (200 Kb/s UP) (current member)

RevTT:
RatioFaker (3 x Download) (banned)


BitSpyder:
RatioFaker (1.- x Download) + RatioMaster (150 Kb/s UP) (current member)

STMusic:
RatioMaster (30 Kb/s UP) (current member)

Pianosheets:
RatioMaster (20 Kb/s UP) (current member)

PussyTorrents:
RatioFaker (1.5 x Download) (current member)



*: Hidden for security reasons.



My Tips list:
1- DO NOT be greedy, low up speed is always better than IP ban + account disable.
2- DO NOT use GreedyTorrent, it sends announces with the exact same ratio, so suspicions.
3- Always look for leechers > 30 with seeders between 10 - 15, and work your calculations from there.
4- Remember that there is no bulletproof cheating technique EVER.
5- With RatioMaster, always use "Memory Reader".
6- Again.. Don't be greedy.
7- Don't be greedy.

My personal favorite cheating tool is .. RatioFaker.


Note: That wasn't experts or gurus talk, that's just my experience.

anon
10.02.10, 23:54
Netcat (Faking HTTP headers)

I don't know how that works but you need to make sure the headers and the whole announce in general look exactly like a real client's.


2- DO NOT use GreedyTorrent, it sends announces with the exact same ratio, so suspicions.

That's why GT Randomizer exists.

Instab
10.02.10, 23:55
now that's a nice intro :top:

MiCRON
10.02.10, 23:56
2- DO NOT use GreedyTorrent, it sends announces with the exact same ratio, so suspicions.

I assume this can be avoided using cheatos' GT randomizer?

Oh anon answered it seconds before posting this. :biggrin:

anon
10.02.10, 23:57
Your assumption is correct.

Secrecy
11.02.10, 01:21
Thx everyone.
Just one thing, @anon, are you the same guy on FST?

Instab
11.02.10, 01:32
Thx everyone.
Just one thing, @anon, are you the same guy on FST?

hehe, you mean anon-sbi?

Secrecy
11.02.10, 01:45
hehe, you mean anon-sbi?
Yes, I mean the name and avatar, but I thought that might be a fake or something


lol

Your account has been disabled.
Only got it twice (RevTT, IPT) and hate it like hell!

Instab
11.02.10, 01:46
Yes, I mean the name and avatar, but I thought that might be a fake or something

no, that's the one and only :top:

Nokki
11.02.10, 06:15
Thanx for sharing this with us my friend!

What do you mean (1.5 x Download)
and (2.- x Download) what's the (-) for?

Also, is it ok for me to put the d/l speed way lower than u/l speed?
Lets say 400kBps down, and 650 kBps up?

Instab
11.02.10, 07:23
Thanx for sharing this with us my friend!

What do you mean (1.5 x Download)
and (2.- x Download) what's the (-) for?

Also, is it ok for me to put the d/l speed way lower than u/l speed?
Lets say 400kBps down, and 650 kBps up?

the 'x' means he dösn't want to disclose the details and yes, more up- than download is okay although it might look a bit odd. you could say you'd have capped the download to keep a good ratio or needed the bandwidth otherwise or something like that

SBfreak
11.02.10, 12:59
RatioFaker (3 x Download) (banned)

a bit too much.I the future use these values:1.1->1.5

Mihai
11.02.10, 15:38
Using values between 1-1,5 will never get you banned if you have a download speed of 1-2Mb max.

Instab
11.02.10, 15:43
Using valüs between 1-1,5 will never get you banned if you have a download speed of 1-2Mb max.

doing this on RevTT these days will get you banned for sure

anon
11.02.10, 17:15
Yes, I mean the name and avatar, but I thought that might be a fake or something

A fake with 2000 posts and 25+ rep points that registered two months ago? :shockkk!: No, that's definitely me.

You may want to use the slow and steady method on RevTT next time. If you aren't familiar with it:
http://www.sb-innovation.de/showthread.php?threadid=15507

BrianBosworth
11.02.10, 17:30
doing this on RevTT these days will get you banned for sure



Same thing happened to me just a few days ago. I have multiple accounts at Revtt, so I try various cheating methods with them. I was using RM with upload speeds of 1MB and hit stop before the update and continued to seed for at least 3 more announce updates at speeds of 1-12kbs. I closed out RM and utorrent and browsed the site 2 hours later with no problems. I tried to browse them a little later on and got the dreaded redirect link for all banned users.
I don't know if the scripts are much better than before. I think that staff is just watching everything a lot closer.

anon
11.02.10, 17:30
I don't know if the scripts are much better than before.

They are :wink: And they can detect the Waffles method's soft-flashing at the beginning.

There's no way the staff can be watching thousands of peerlists and logs at the same time.

Secrecy
11.02.10, 18:09
Well.. thx for the tips
I know about slow and steady
But I hated RevTT anyway, overrated and yet so similar to TL, and doesn't worth the risk.

- I used "-" and "xx" to hide the exact values.
- (1.2 x Download) means the value of the upload multiplier is "1.2" and the Upload/Download value is set to "Download", meaning RatioFaker of course.