View Full Version : Improvements to SB-I
In order to help that SB-I is being constantly improved I thought what Sb-I would need is a better structure of the start page. For a longer period of time I was thinking about a way to make browsing there more comfortable. I came up with the following ideas and hopefully there will be some feedback from the staff and the members.
My first point, maybe a bit too much for some of you, would be to cut down the amount of information shown on the start page. See, I think, there are far too many forum sections shown than really used, especially in the german section. As the majority of the board is using the english-speaking part of the board (myself included), I think, a good first step would be to cut down/ integrate those forum sections in order to have the same amount of sections as in the english section at most.
As the role model I take the english section because it looks quite better structured.
Starting with the community part of the german section.
Community
I think it would be a good start just to have:
Offtopic (maybe including "CHill and Fun Section")
Politik
Umfragen
Entertainment (including "Kino, DVD, TV und Serien", "Musik", "Handy & Mobilfiunk" )
Sport & Fitness
Technik
A possible improvment could look like this: (again, reference is the english section)
Software
Hardware
Grafik
Computer, Internet und Netzwerk (either integrating OS or leaving it since the majority of threads there could be easily imported into the news section)
Filesharing
Same procedure as used above:
First, I would apply the same order as it is used in the english filesharing section.
Talk
Tracker Reviews
FAQ's & Tutorials
BitTorrent Tracker Account & Invite Trading
BitTorrent Mods & Tools
eMule Mods & Tools
OCH Mods & Tools
Since the german is now completely described I coming to the only change in the english section that, in my eyes, would be good.
Information
There I would only remove the Arcade Gameshall, since there hasn't been posted anybody yet. (If a group of people wishes the opposite later, it could be reconsidered)
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Another point that I would like to mention is the thing about the news sections in both parts.
I find them really useful since I can read nearly about everything that happens in world from one place. The only thing what I don't like though is the fact that the other sections are used for that intention. For example, when the german Games Talk/ Konsolen & Spiele section and the german Game Newes are commpared. If so many news are posted there too, I think we don't really another news section. The other possibility would be to abandon the entire german Games section and integrate the few post that aren't news into the above mentioned Entertainment section. That way the news wouldn't go to two places and we save up some space on the start page. :wink:
The same can actually be done with several other sections too, for example with the Betriebssysteme section and even with the "Computer, Internet und Netzwerk" that I want to exclude from that list because of the importace. the Betriebssysteme section nearly consisting of news only could be imported to the Computer news.
But don't get me wrong, I don't want to offend the posters there! I appreciate erveryones work in keeping SB-I up-to-date with the latest news. I just want that everything goes in the proper channels, thats's why those news sections were originally created, I suppose. :wink2:
As I just wanted to give an impulse and a help to that change I didn't look up all the other threads. There may be some further interferences/overlaps. If these possible changes met some of the users/staff members approval here, they could help in discovering more of those overlaps. :smile:
A last thing I wanted to bring up is the right on the start page the "latest releases" I don't know if only I experience it too big or if others do so too?
I appreciate that feature very much cause it helps to see the latest releases right after opening the start page. But couldn't be done there something about its size as it uses up a lot of space there. Maybe arranging the links another way?
I would clearly understand if you don't want to apply all of them, but I htink, those are good ideas of how to improve the broswing here and how to get rid of rarly used or unused sections. As I am a member here too, I wanted to seize my opportunity as a member to improve the site and the browsing experience. Hopefully nobody sees that as negative critisism as this should only be thing that would make the page even better!
I know the staff has to do a lot of work, but if they would need some helping handy, I bet they could count on us, the (advanced) users/ elite users/ vips. :klatsch_3:
greetz vDD :top:
the size of the current release box is really a problem and we experimented with a few plugins to improve it but we are still searching for a solution. yes it have to much elements, in first place you can see there the newest mods from the last weeks without the need to go through the forum but on the other side its using a lot of space and we had many discussions about it.
i agree with the news area problem
and i agree that there is to much in the front page. the real problem is not the quantity in one area because if you look in the community area there arent much forums but the whole page is if you have every area open to long especially because we have two languages. we have ideas on how to improve this but first we need to wait for the vbulleting 4.0 update and then we need time to see how we can fix that problem
Hey hitman, thanks for sharing your thought here! Greatly appreciated. :top:
the size of the current release box is really a problem and we experimented with a few plugins to improve it but we are still searching for a solution
If the staff finds that this should has to be taken care of really fast, then you could maybe do it like with the forum sections, that the latest release box could be minimized and maximized. (maybe with that minus/plus-button)
Of course this wouldn't be the best solution of all, but it would serve its purpose for the time until the bulletin updates is released.
Another approach can be that the staff could categorize all the releases.
E.g.:
Latest Realeases:
Bittorrent rls(+) eMule rls(+) OCH rls(+)
You can put them in one row too, since this would save more space and would look better too, if you ask me. :wink:
But this way none of the releases has to be removed, since, with the plus/minus button, every category can be expanded.
You don't even have to classify the releases for members and non-members.
Behind the releases for members you could put an [M] that's indicating that this is available for members only. Another solution could be (dunno if this is possible) to hide the entire list of latest releases which can only be downloaded from members for non-members. Of course, you can combine this to make browsing more comfortable for the users who are logged in and for those who aren't.
and i agree that there is to much in the front page. the real problem is not the quantity in one area because if you look in the community area there arent much forums but the whole page is if you have every area open to long especially because we have two languages. we have ideas on how to improve this but first we need to wait for the vbulleting 4.0 update and then we need time to see how we can fix that problem
That's good to see, that there's being worked on. And I understand your position that you think not a section in particular but the whole forum causes this problem. I think so too.
But the reason I espicially mentioned the community section is because there's the biggest difference to the english counterpart. See, as this is more an english speaking board already, I don't think that so many sections are necessary there. PLus, I think, the board would profit from a uniform layout orienting on the english section. :top:
But let's finally wait for the 4.0 release. it's good, that the staff already has possible plans for solving the problem.
i agree with the news area problem
For that I only see the solutions I already wrote down in my opening post. And as this might be an urgent problem, the staff should consider taking proceedings, otherwise the misuses would go on and might take effect on new users who might think that this is the right way to do it. (to avoid a snowball effect :wink:)
greetz vDD
the announcement box can now be expanded and closed like the other forum areas. should be enough till we have a better solution.
the announcement box on the front forum page could be rearranged in such way that it shows only the last/newest 5-10 releases for both member & non-member section with a link underneath them (All Releases) towards a new thread that would contain the full list of releases sorted by their purpose/name/version as vDD+wR suggested:
* Bittorrent rls(+)
* eMule rls(+)
* OCH rls(+)
i would add that some threads/forum sections have the same name for english & german section and sometimes its hard to distinguish which one has what language - this could be fixed by renaming the sections, like this:
Off Topic --> Off Topic (german) or Off Topic DE
or Tracker Reviews (deutsch) ...
the announcement box has been reduced to 5 items with a link to the full list of releases.
i would add that some threads/forum sections have the same name for english & german section and sometimes its hard to distinguish which one has what language - this could be fixed by renaming the sections, like this:
Off Topic --> Off Topic (german) or Off Topic DE
or Tracker Reviews (deutsch) ...
on the other side you can deactivate in your usercp in the settings the forum parts that you dont want to see if you use the newest post button. the german tracker review is not in that list but we will see where the problem is.
the announcement box has been reduced to 5 items with a link to the full list of releases.
hey hitman,
as I came to the start page, I noticed that. Looks way better in my opinion & much more attractive to guests visiting the page. :top:
on the other side you can deactivate in your usercp in the settings the forum parts that you dont want to see if you use the newest post button.
That wouldn't solve the actual problem, it would only be a workaround. But nevertheless a nice advice for customizing the start page. Didn't know that one until now.
@mods könnte man diesen sehr guten Threat paralell in den deutschen Feedback-Bereich mit einfliessen lassen.
Thx, vor allen an die Themen-Starterin
mfg
First,nice ideas & potential to add & modify things you might think of leading to a better SB-I.
Well,I have some points to comment on,the very noticeable of them is the news section which is as you said very useful to get updated frequently with what's happening around us,so I think that we shouldn't allow anything even if low informative to be posted out of this section on which we can guarantee full utilization of it.
Another interesting thing is the GameShall section,maybe we don't need to erase it but rather,encourage it by notifying the members about what does such a section offer to them in order to get more activity inside it.
Still,after all,I believe SB-I has highly leaped over much much more than ever before.You just can feel now that you're hovering through a professional,focused & very informative specialized community board which is quite relative to new modifications & implementation being taken into consideration on continous basis.
I think SB-I should also setup an IRC channel, where people can interact more dynamically.
It would be a wasted of time.Lame anti-cheaters and admins will invade it.
Make it invite only. :tongue:
The problem is we had a chat in the past and it was quite dead, so I don't know if a IRC Channel would be worth the effort.
Lame anti-cheaters and admins will invade it.
I understand this and Yes I agree but I am talking about a secret IRC channel where only trusted people can be invited. Hidden in depths of IRC network, for example there are scene groups also present on IRC but the one who knows can access them.
Like we have threat from anti-cheaters and physic :stupid: tracker admins , those scene groups are also threatened by so called RIAA:baeh: investigators, but they are operating in IRC network, because no one can reach them without properly knowing their address as IRC is an abyss :rolling_eyes:.
Please more templates
FTP download section (For exclusive content of our community)
a GFX section
and bigger avatars(at least 150x250px) would be nice improvements. :top:
mangathala2002
14.10.09, 06:11
Change it so that a user can be auto-promoted to Member after being here for 30 days
Blocker, we have the Grafik subforum in the german area, is that what you mean with GFX section?
mangathala2002, sure, that will still prevent our mods from being leaked. :rolleyes:
Change it so that a user can be auto-promoted to Member after being here for 30 days
I clearly disagree too, since those who just download can do that witout the member title.
The promotion is kind of an award for those who who commit something to the community/ site.
FTP download section
Sounds interesting. But the mods have to decide on that if there's some money left for an ftp server and if it would be of any use.
I don't know whether it would be useful since the mods can be distributed the way as it's done.
Nevertheless, I would be for an irc server. Even though this topic was discussed earlier in another thread. Somehow I didn't like the concept of that implemented shoutbox. :rolleyes: But it would definitly help to be in touch with the ppl here on a live basis. And you wouldn't have to rely on instant messaging programms like icq and stuff.
But of course, it's the staffs decision again. :wink2:
thecoolest
14.10.09, 15:41
as i think ppl have an option to choose a spl forums means if ppl dont know abt german dont get german in area when they sign in..
Also abt member thing..ppl who contributed..little can get the member title..but how much can one contribute to the site??which is already information here then & also which kinda work moderators thinks that member is being contributed??? i didnt understand it..
Also abt member thing..ppl who contributed..little can get the member title..but how much can one contribute to the site??which is already information here then & also which kinda work moderators thinks that member is being contributed??? i didnt understand it..
I made a big post in the feedback for open registrations thread about this. Search for it.
thecoolest
14.10.09, 16:12
i alredy posted there..2ce till now as i think...i contribute alot of knowledge but its does not working..
...i contribute alot of knowledge but its does not working
Don't worry, the staff's deciding who gets the member title. Plus, it's one of the nicest communities I've seen on the net. So, don't think, that somebody misjudges your efforts here. :smile:
Just be stay with us and you'll get your rank. :wink2:
i alredy posted there..
What vDD+wR said + posting itself won't get you anywhere, you could make 500 posts in one day and still not get the Member title.
Blocker, we have the Grafik subforum in the german area, is that what you mean with GFX section?
Yes,but Iwould like to have one in the english section because I'dont speak german and translating is not so practical for me.
Sounds interesting. But the mods have to decide on that if there's some money left for an ftp server and if it would be of any use.
I don't know whether it would be useful since the mods can be distributed the way as it's done.
Yeah but with a ftp server people can get much content or just exclusive for donors or members,that could help in more activity in the forum and some donations
vDD+wR;The shoutbox is good for me I don't care of an IRC server
Yes,but Iwould like to have one in the english section because I'dont speak german and translating is not so practical for me.
You're allowed to post in english in the german area :smile:
thecoolest
15.10.09, 12:01
ya .i understand that thing vdd+wR but the main problem is something else as u can see it here
more info here
http://www.sb-innovation.de/showthread.php?threadid=12733&page=10#post135995
Yeah but with a ftp server people can get much content or just exclusive for donors or members,that could help in more activity in the forum and some donations
Sorry, but I still don't see an advantage of applying an ftp-server to SB-I.
If it comes to content that should be only visible/ accessable to user classes above the normal members, this could be realized through certain sections which are visible for those user classes only. (As it already is.)
The shoutbox is good for me I don't care of an IRC server
I'm not quite sure, but wouldn't an independent IRC server have the advantage that it won't increase the CPU load?
Whereas applying the shoutbox on the webserver, where SB-I is "located", would increase the CPU load/RAM usage, right?
As I said I'm not that sure about it, but I would be happy if someone could varify/falsify my thesis. :biggrin:
Both will increase resource usage, of course. But IRC would be easier on the server than a shoutbox anyone can access.
the order of the english p2p section has been updated.
Looks great :top: Should draw more attention towards the OCH area :biggrin:
drinkingproblem
18.10.09, 17:50
I guess you should close the forum for unregistered members, i've been using your mods for a long time now and i only registered today.
I guess you should close the forum for unregistered members
We've already thought (http://www.sb-innovation.de/f51/p2p-forums-visibility-unregistered-users-12532/) about this and decided it's best to leave forums visible for guests. (Cheating) information has to be free :wink:
drinkingproblem
18.10.09, 17:55
We've already thought (http://www.sb-innovation.de/f51/p2p-forums-visibility-unregistered-users-12532/) about this and decided it's best to leave forums visible for guests. (Cheating) information has to be free :wink:
Ok, i understand :wink:
the order of the english p2p section has been updated.
Thanks for that, hitman. :top:
Hopefully, there will be further changes to the board, so that the usability can be continuously improved.
My idea since there is a lot of new english members maybe to get more activity on these english section is to put it a bit higher so you dont have to scroll down as much or maybe just merge it with the german and the thread maker can choose which language they speak in, becasue there are probably many german speakers that dont post in the english forum while they can good english. Just a thought.
My idea since there is a lot of new english members maybe to get more activity on these english section is to put it a bit higher so you dont have to scroll down as much or maybe just merge it with the german and the thread maker can choose which language they speak in, becasue there are probably many german speakers that dont post in the english forum while they can good english. Just a thought.
this problem will be hopefully resolved when we will update the forum software next year
Mr.unknown
21.11.09, 15:10
Please Update Birthday Wishes Section... Also...
'ill be very appreciated 'coz couldn't find its ....
I insist that bigger size of avatars than now ! would be nice!
Maybe the size should depends of the number of posts;
I just found out for this: iSpy (http://www.sb-innovation.de/vaispy.php) and I must admit it rulez totally. Far easier to monitor anon's posts when we are online in same time and he is on his posting spree. :D
My suggestion would be to improve this feature, by making it read user's settings (user who is watching it) and then to allow it (this feature) to inform him just about new posts from subforums that he has enabled in control panel (I for example, disabled all german (except p2p) boards for viewing) if that makes sense.
I do however realize that linked feature probably works globally and that there is not much chance to make adjustmesnts to it according to my suggestion but I had to write sth here :P
Actually it does not rule that much. Skips some posts O_<
I usually use both.(xx unread messages and Ispy).It never skipped a message till now though.:confused2:
I insist that bigger size of avatars than now ! would be nice!
Neah leave avatars as they are now.It's better this way because most of our members have a small bandwidth.For example if most of us put like 300x150 sized avatars page loading will take forever.
Maybe the size should depends of the number of posts;
Then anon's avatar will take like the whole screen:eek13::tongue:[/offtopic]
iSpy does jam and "leak" posts sometimes. Mostly when heavy posting is going on.
Current avatar size is fine, although I think we could allow slightly wider images.
we could allow slightly wider images.
good thing there's an option to disable avatars and sigs :bäh:
I wasn't talking about 640x480 avatars :tongue:
Time to revive this thread.
Is it possible to make this option:
http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/3097/85913169.png
display random smileys every time I click on it??
Also I would like to see and option for the English channel by default.
Is it possible to make this option:
display random smileys every time I click on it??
I don't think that's a good idea for those that don't remember the "code" for the default ones, but I guess we could add more ones that aren't on the list.
Also I would like to see and option for the English channel by default.
In the shoutbox? Look here (http://www.sb-innovation.de/profile.php?do=editoptions).
http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/1638/37598275.png
:confused2:
but I guess we could add more ones that aren't on the list.
That would be cool.
Maybe It woul be great to make improvements in the design!
Sorry for spamming ,but the design of this VBulletin board is awesome.
ABoxcafe - Your Entertainment Network - Powered by vBulletin (http://www.aboxcafe.com/forums/index.php)
The Flag under the avatars looks great
that forum has totally different content. and the most styles are just different headers.
anyway there will be a number of changes in the near future so let's hope you like it :biggrin:
anyway there will be a number of changes in the near future so let's hope you like it :biggrin:
Wait...that sounds like you know what's coming:icon_angry[1]::2405:
just have a look at the suggestions/feedback forum
Can you please give a link?
lol, sure
Feedback for the announcements - SB-Innovation - Leecher Mod Source Nr. 1 (http://www.sb-innovation.de/f134/)
Feedback - SB-Innovation - Leecher Mod Source Nr. 1 (http://www.sb-innovation.de/f135/)
there're also german versions with slightly different content
Those are already implemented features.I thought you were talking about a thread I might have missed that's why I asked for link.
maybe there's a bit more stuff in the german threads (in german, sorry)
image (http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/1638/37598275.png)
:confused2:
That would be cool.
its a bug since our last update for that plugin
Change the banner please. :confused2:
Makes me think is christmas or new year's day yet
Change the banner please. :confused2:
Makes me think is christmas or new year's day yet
in the works already ... :biggrin:
in the works already ... :biggrin:
Will it be the orange one or the old one??:confused:
There is pinned
torrent sites that are open for sign-up, which is some kind of rat race sometimes we repost each other few times.
Suggestion topic like Tracker sign-ups announcements(i am not sure about title i just can't put better words together at the moment)
Topic for sign-ups planned/announced earlier that we know about like one day to one month before.
Same the torrent sites that are open for sign-up topic, cant we invent something like updated list or system for it.
"torrent sites that are open for sign-up" also does not state from when its was opened and when were closed, rarely we mention sign-up limitation - like members amount or time limit if it is also official, i wont post there also more than one post a day - doing so is mistake maybe should be restricted.
Any suggestions and thoughts about it?(maybe some poll in the file sharing talks)
There is pinned
torrent sites that are open for sign-up, which is some kind of rat race sometimes we repost each other few times.
That's considered spam. Please report posts with trackers that have already been posted.
If an important tracker opens and you feel not enough people will see it in the open signups thread, just make a new one in the Filesharing News section.
Rules need an update in second paragraph of Deutsche und English version should be added suggestion to add your name while granting Reputation, otherwise noone may retirn favor, and it is too easy overlook/forget who granted it. I forgot to do it at my every repute grant at my start, others also may.
Herzliche Grüße
Vation
Edit:
maybe 60 seconds force to read rules at sign-ups or some note at thank you posts(this is just a thought)
Rules need an update in second paragraph of Deutsche und English version should be added suggestion to add your name while granting Reputation, otherwise noone may retirn favor, and it is too easy overlook/forget who granted it. I forgot to do it at my every repute grant at my start, so others also may
Herzliche Grüße
Vation
Adding your name is not entirely necessary:wink:.What if someone wants to remain anonymous ?
.What if someone wants to remain anonymous ?
exactly, when giving Negative Rep you don't want him to take revenge from you :wink:
When i read answers sometimes i become afraid of ... :wink:
Edit:
I mean advisory, it is not mandatory.
When i read answers sometimes i become afraid of ... :wink:
why :tongue:?
i'm one of the most friendliest members of SB-I
Rules need an update in second paragraph of Deutsche und English version should be added suggestion to add your name while granting Reputation
That's up to the repper. Otherwise, we could have simply enabled the "Posted By" for everyone as many other boards do.
saebrtooth
07.02.10, 00:35
We can also add our name to the 'reason' comment line
We can also add our name to the 'reason' comment line
exactly. actually that's what most guys do
saebrtooth
07.02.10, 02:09
hehe, but I must admit i usually forget to add my name lol
regardless choice is working good
And I agree with SBfreak and Cheatos regarding the nonymous thing regarding -ve rep, although i hve never had the opportunity to do it and thats a fact ask any mod *.*
mangathala2002
09.02.10, 08:17
Google Custom Search Engine - Site search and more (http://www.google.com/cse/)
Google custom search engine for SBi? :smile:
Sometimes i find it tough using the current search feature:frown:
Since Google Chrome was not allowed here for a longer period, I highly doubt that another software published by Google is going to be used/ allowed here. :wink:
As their Business is to collect & analyze Data by the tools they are offering "for free" and SB-I doesn't want to have that kind of attention, you'll see those two ideas definitly collide.:smile:
But if I'm wrong at some point with SB-I's PR, everyone at SB-I should feel free to comment. :cool:
grretz vDD
It would be nice to replace the current search engine which sometimes sucks,but then again it's from google.http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/7739/ag8uh.jpg
Google custom search engine for SBi? :smile:
Use this:
http://www.scroogle.org/cgi-bin/nbbw.cgi?Gw=word1+word2+site:sb-innovation.de
SBfreak, I guess you're referring to the fact our search engine won't index words shorter than 5 letters, to prevent the index from growing to enormous proportions. In that case just use what I posted above. :top:
SBfreak, I güss you're referring to the fact our search engine won't index words shorter than 5 letters
it's 4
Just to be sure this is ours right??
SB-Innovation Blog (http://blog.sb-innovation.de/)
Look next to "User CP" below the side header. :happy:
It's been a long time since I failed:tongue:
Kinda inactive don't you guys think??
Wouldn't it be nice to spice things a little??
Just take a look at the following sites:
Planet Ubuntu (http://planet.ubuntu.com/)
Planet CrunchBang Linux (http://crunchbanglinux.org/planet/)
Planet Fedora (http://planet.fedoraproject.org/)
One masterful blog.A lot of contributive members.
Wouldn't it be nice to have a "cheating planet"?:naughty:
When will be ready the new VBulletin version?:confused2:
any news??
I'd not like to sound like I'm begging you but I'm interested in the new SB-I version
I'm interested in the new SB-I version
what exactly do you expect? do you have issü with the current one? or do you miss a major feature?
Nope It's OK ,
I think you were gonna update the forums to the new VBulletin version
Nope It's OK ,
I think you were gonna update the forums to the new VBulletin version
we will but i thought you had something specific in mind
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