A discussion split from the PornBay review

[desodorante]

The presence of animal porn is disturbing. Otherwise, good tracker for content available (non-scene porn).


Animal Porn ??!! :mad2: EEEEEEEEEEEkkkkkkkkkkssssssssss :confused2: I hate this one category.

Not that I like that, but calling it disturbing and hating it is too much for me.
It is not as reprehensible as pedophilia or rape-like sex.
Some people enjoy seeing it, some doing it.
Besides, the animals don't seem to suffer about it!! :klatsch_3: LOL

[Black Orchid]

Not that I like that, but calling it disturbing and hating it is too much for me.
It is not as reprehensible as pedophilia or rape-like sex.
Some people enjoy seeing it, some doing it.
Besides, the animals don't seem to suffer about it!! :klatsch_3: LOL

I respect you opinion. However, beastiality is illegal in very many places and also considered animal cruelty. Whether animal suffer or not is big debate, but cannot be considered willing participant as is no consent given. My opinion is that it on samme level as pedophilia or rape porn.

[alpacino]

Bestiality: I don't know, I really don't know what to say about this.
Pedophilia: is cruelty with children, as they are innocent and will cause severe psychological traumas.
Rape porn, as in porn where they simulate rape, I guess it's ok for people willing to fulfill fantasies, perversions or such, because in the end it's fake and everybody is getting paid to do it, pretty different from real rape.

[anon]

Better move this to a separate thread.

[Black Orchid]

I was not try to make problem with my comments. Just giving opinion on the matter. Sorry.

[slikrapid]

Better move this to a separate thread.

was a bit hard to find a theme matching thread name? :wink:

on topic:

so whats the only thing missing, snuff pr0n?


Whether animal suffer or not is big debate, but cannot be considered willing participant as is no consent given.

:confused: when did anybody ask an animal for an opinion...they get used & abused all the time

[Black Orchid]

:confused: when did anybody ask an animal for an opinion...they get used & abused all the time

This true, but should not be the case. Animal abuse very horrible and terrible. Abhorrent, even. I will spare others more of opinion on animal abuse for sake of not inciting forum war. Not my intent to cause issue.

Still, point was that if no consent given (even if by animal), then is considered "rape (http://ninjawords.com/rape)." Very definition of word describe this action.

[slikrapid]

hard to say, really - in nature some animals 'rape' others, i would just call it a variation of animal abuse - when humans are involved

[SBfreak]

Well I've been keeping a eye on this discussion since it stared.Well if we look thorough the dictionary we can find the definition of rape:"any assault of a sexual nature on another person.".This act has a great psychological impact on the victim.
Ok forget what I said man is the most unpredictable creature.We don't know what we are capable of.But....raping an animal...paid to rape a animal:frown:..dude that's just sick.

[Nobody]

I respect you opinion. However, beastiality is illegal in very many places and also considered animal cruelty. Whether animal suffer or not is big debate, but cannot be considered willing participant as is no consent given. My opinion is that it on samme level as pedophilia or rape porn.

So if I read your comments throughout this thread correctly--two animals having sex actually never happens? It's always technically rape? No animal voices consent/non-consent. Either way, that's just a silly statement to make.

Animal cruelty you say? Don't go telling me that animals don't enjoy sex at all. If you equate having sex with an animal the same as beating it half to death with a leather strap... your off your rocker.

I'm no more a fan of animal porn than anyone else here--but it is porn. This is the internet. This is a porn website. This is where someone who was a fan of this stuff would expect to get it. Add to that you should consider where your making this argument. We're not exactly the golden children of morality here.

[Black Orchid]

So if I read your comments throughout this thread correctly--two animals having sex actually never happens? It's always technically rape? No animal voices consent/non-consent. Either way, that's just a silly statement to make.

Animal cruelty you say? Don't go telling me that animals don't enjoy sex at all. If you equate having sex with an animal the same as beating it half to death with a leather strap... your off your rocker.

I'm no more a fan of animal porn than anyone else here--but it is porn. This is the internet. This is a porn website. This is where someone who was a fan of this stuff would expect to get it. Add to that you should consider where your making this argument. We're not exactly the golden children of morality here.

Please do not resort to insulting my commentary or mental faculties. Amoral or not, please have tact. I try to present my opinion calmly and respectfully, you not do same. I not looking to argue, even if only semantics. If you are, I not willing participate. Also, I not arguing as you claim.

What I believe is simple: human -> animal sexual contact very wrong. Animal abuse very wrong. In my mind, they equal in sense that both abusive activities. Neither should be tolerated by civilized person. Ever.

Please, in future, do not pick on people. I welcome to my opinion, but will keep it to self here on out since cannot be certain that will not be used against me. Very sad right now.

[Nobody]

Tact? Okay.

Firstly, I was not insulting your mental faculties. I was insulting your unsupported opinion, there's a big difference.

Secondly, there's no need to repeat your opinion to me as you just did. You made yourself crystal clear in your previous posts. You did, however, in going on the defensive manage to dodge the questions I issued (albeit indirectly):

1) Your logic leads to the conclusion that all animal sex (between two animals) is rape. Is this what you meant to say? If so, why do you think this?

2) Is there ever a case in which an animal could enjoy sex? If you answer in the affirmative, there is a chance that that case could be with a member of another species. Which leads us to the question: Wouldn't enjoying sex with a member of another species technically be consent?

3) Torrenting is about freedom of information. Provided the content is legal somewhere, why should one tracker conform to the morality of the general consensus?

I never intended to make you sad, or to discourage you from posting. You made some rather lofty inferences and I was, in my own way, trying to goad you in to explaining yourself more fully. If you feel these questions to be superficial or going in to "semantics", by all means ignore this post altogether and accept my apologies.

My opinion is probably closer to yours than you might think... my knee jerk reaction was in ones painting the entire ethical question with such broad strokes--not at the conclusions you arrived at. Also please note that this wasn't solely directed at you. There are clearly others in this thread who share your opinion.

[Black Orchid]

Tact? Okay.

Firstly, I was not insulting your mental faculties. I was insulting your unsupported opinion, there's a big difference.

Secondly, there's no need to repeat your opinion to me as you just did. You made yourself crystal clear in your previous posts. You did, however, in going on the defensive manage to dodge the questions I issued (albeit indirectly):

1) Your logic leads to the conclusion that all animal sex (between two animals) is rape. Is this what you meant to say? If so, why do you think this?

2) Is there ever a case in which an animal could enjoy sex? If you answer in the affirmative, there is a chance that that case could be with a member of another species. Which leads us to the question: Wouldn't enjoying sex with a member of another species technically be consent?

3) Torrenting is about freedom of information. Provided the content is legal somewhere, why should one tracker conform to the morality of the general consensus?

I never intended to make you sad, or to discourage you from posting. You made some rather lofty inferences and I was, in my own way, trying to goad you in to explaining yourself more fully. If you feel these questions to be superficial or going in to "semantics", by all means ignore this post altogether and accept my apologies.


1) This not true. I said nothing about animal -> animal sex. You make that assumprion yourself. Please no put words in my mouth.

2) There is no way to know if animal enjoy sex. You cannot ask one. Therefore, to make assumption one way or another very arrogant.

3) Is not my place to say if animal porn should be allowed on tracker. My belief is that it wrong. That is crux of this discussion.

I must now add you to ignore list. You not support any opinion but your own, and make it your job to be hurtful and tactless to me. If you feel need to reply to this post, it will not be seen by me. I cannot continue to become upset and taken to task for having own opinion. Is shameful that it come to this.

I must now decide if this community right for me. Is best cheating site on net, but if only thing to expect is assault for making commentary... Cannot put self through this. Should not have to.

[Nobody]

Even though you can't see this, my apologies that you felt my inquiries into your opinion as a personal attack. I admit my initial reaction was a bit jarring but was not intended to be truly offensive.

I'd like to continue this conversation, as I think it delves on an interesting fringe bisect of torrents and morality--two paths that seem to rarely cross these days. But I can't really see that happening in any capacity now.

With that, I think I'll be receding back in to my lurkers lair for a bit.

[DriftKing]

I just want to say - The Person who loved to watch animal sex with Human - He is a sick - Mentally sick ! Thats all !

[hontoCorti]

Lol, whats your definition of mental sickness?

Not thinking like the majority of the people?

Then i think there are a lot of mentally sick people out there;)

[desodorante]

Seems like I started WW3 in here :tongue: LOL
Porn itself is one of those subjects we can discuss forever and ever, so keep in mind we are here to share, even if we do not agree with the rest. By this I mean, don't take opinions as a personal matter. Take me for instance, I'm an anti-leecher in a leecher forum!! :biggrin:
Let's make threads not war :biggrin: :sb-innovation: