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Well, I recently got an account for ScL and was wondering how cheating would be done best. I know since the Packs are allways freeleech it isnt that hard. But I still like cheating so therefore I would give it a try:biggrin:
So far I started faking at <100kb up with vuze extr mod on the packs with high leechers. Just in case.
So let me know
edit: Oh and I dont have to put in a custom ID, because Azureus is allowed there, right ?, or is the spoof faking a own calculated ID
mRatio, Ratio Master, Shu Mod works there. Grab new and well leeched torrents and keep your upload speed between 100-150. Make sure your apply memory reader if you are using ratio master.
edit: Oh and I dont have to put in a custom ID, because Azureus is allowed there, right ?, or is the spoof faking a own calculated ID
The custom ID is only needed when spoofing uTorrent.
@anon gottcha:top:
I pushed the upload around 240 with extr mod, cause pretty much like everyone got a seedbox or good connection there so I hope it wont be obvious:biggrin:
I believe you still could push it a little.
You can check the peerlist at ScL - pick a popular torrent and blend into the crowd. :top:
Ratio Faker works there.. even if the number of leechers is 0::biggrin:..
So what would be reasons to think that some of the leechers wanna get cheaters???
If there are leechers who are leeching like 3 days, or leechers who constandly have 99.1% done and nutting is changing? or leechers who didnt download anything/have a Inf. ratio??
@SBfreak: are you sure about this, cause it sounds kinda risky. Hope you did that a lot of times and diden't get banned. Because if you did it only a few times you might have been lucky and gotten away with it.
So what would be reasons to think that some of the leechers wanna get cheaters???
If there are leechers who are leeching like 3 days, or leechers who constandly have 99.1% done and nutting is changing? or leechers who didnt download anything/have a Inf. ratio??
Those stuck at 99.1% with a 0.00kB/s download speed are partial seeders - torrents filled with these are most likely packs, handle them carefully.
Real leechers' finished % will increase until they snatch the torrent - these are the kind of ones to fake on.
Again, you should be glad you can see the peerlist at ScL. Check it out before faking to see if it's a good torrent. :top:
@SBfreak: are you sure about this, cause it sounds kinda risky. Hope you did that a lot of times and diden't get banned. Because if you did it only a few times you might have been lucky and gotten away with it.There's no problem with that mate, you will be safe, because ratiofaker is a stats multiplier, so it needs some real seeding to get going, and if there's 0 leeches, then no traffic is going on.
But if he's using the download multiplier when there are 0 leechers it's indeed risky. :smile:
I'm starting to like ScL:biggrin:, but I would have to check the peerlist constandly to know if the % is increasing of the leechers.
Oh and if I download only partially the torrent, do I get a snatchentry?
And how would the peers look like, who wanna catch me :confused:
but I would have to check the peerlist constandly to know if the % is increasing of the leechers.
Checking it every 30-45 minutes should be enough.
Oh and if I download only partially the torrent, do I get a snatchentry?
I think so.
And how would the peers look like, who wanna catch me :confused:
You mean how partial seeders (i.e. "fake" leechers) look like in the peerlist? They're stuck at a certain % and their download speed is 0.0kB/s.
Checking it every 30-45 minutes should be enough.
I am lazy, so I usually just check to make sure there are more leechers hopping in the sawrm from time to time. This is by no means "completely safe" and anon's suggestion is more logical for your account security, but the odds are in your favor if people are jumping on a 30+Gig Pack, that they are grabbing a large portion of it. ...just a suggestion for lazy people like me. Checking the peerlist and adjusting your speed if definitely the most foolproof method. I tweak my speeds at random from time to time as well depending on the connected leechers. Iusually stay under about 500KBps, but higher rates can definitley be gotten away with. Good Luck All ! :top:
Awright I think I m gonna ride safe with those kind of tipps.
Thx m8s
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Oh one last question :wink:
So what is, if I download a whole pack ... but set the priority high to the files I wanna have FOR REAL and put the other to low priority, and when I have "snatched" the ones I like and delete the torrent...there wouldn't be a snatchentry. And since the packs are freeleech I dont have to worry:frown: about the down. (Of cause the files must not be in .rar or else packed)
Know what I mean ?
So what is, if I download a whole pack ... but set the priority high to the files I wanna have FOR REAL and put the other to low priority, and when I have "snatched" the ones I like and delete the torrent...there wouldn't be a snatchentry. And since the packs are freeleech I dont have to worry:frown: about the down. (Of cause the files must not be in .rar or else packed)
You'd still download all files, and have an snatchlist entry. Prorities are just to get particular files from the torrent faster than others, that's it.
I recently discovered in Vuze that there is a column for "Is the peer interested in what you have?" under the Torrent details/Peers, so this way you can actually see which peer is trying to download something, cause the % of those peers were constantly increasing when I looked at them. So "these are the kind of ones to fake on."
Can really recommend this option to add ( if not already done:top:)
That could also do unless you have No Upload enabled. :smile: Shu was going to make his mod only fake upload when a connected peer asked you for a piece, but I don't know what happened to that.
unless you have No Upload enabled
I always have NO UPload enabled, but peers are still interested in my pieces, so I guess it still works, because i m giving them the fake upload.....right?
Fake upload is only sent to the tracker. Peers can't be interested in your pieces with No Upload enabled, because this setting tells them you have nothing to offer.
But look for yourself, I got a * in the interesting for peer. And I sure got a checkmark on No upload...:confused:
http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/3708/testh.jpg
Strange... how much time have you been connected to each other? Perhaps the connection is idle and he'll break it when he realizes you have nothing to offer.
Is No Upload ticked in the SB-I Hack General tab? Or only in the global settings?
I believe its for quite an while like this, also on other torrents, I increased the fake upload an hour ago, cause those peers "want pieces" from me and their % is also increasing.
I got the no up checked in SB-Innovation Hack General FOR THIS torrent, but also in the SB-I Hack under Tools/Options
I believe its for quite an while like this, also on other torrents, I increased the fake upload an hour ago, cause those peers "want pieces" from me and their % is also increasing.
I see... but their % increasing can be explained as them downloading from other people.
but their % increasing can be explained as them downloading from other people
Of cause, thats why I m faking on them that my fake upload isnt noticed, cause they are downloading anyways.
And on those torrents were the % isnt increasing, or partial seeding, they are not "interested in my pieces". So just like normal/how it is supposed to be
shawshankraj
17.05.09, 13:32
This is from scl staff
Dear ScL member,
In a week or so SceneLife will perform a massive userbase clean up. If you have the following stats you will be DISABLED
0 - Download
0 - Upload
0 - Forums posts
0 - Torrent comments
Others close to these stats will be reviewed. It is noted that if you are disabled due to this cleanup help in our #support channel of IRC,
will NOT be given, as you already have been giving the opportunity to be a part of this community and be active.
With this cleanup we hope to improve the quality of our userbase. Cause we do not run this community for collectors and inactive members.
But for those who actually use it.
Kind Regards,
SceneLife crew since 2007
Yeah, hopefully there will be another invite periode follow !!!
I really would like to push cheating on the limit there...but dont wanna risk my acc:frown:
shawshankraj
17.05.09, 18:59
IN scl all things work.
Don't use pmr there
not all things works
my friend best bet is using mratio speeds in range of 100+ is acceptable
though many go beyond that but i wouldnt tell u to do so
since ScL staff go through logs regularly and they disable accounts if they find suspicion
Yeah I m going up to 300-350 on some torrents with shu mod, but they have to be leeched very well and pretty new uploaded. Just dont build up a high ratio.
Terminator
19.06.09, 06:03
freeleech going on at ScL..
Any latest helpful information regarding cheating there.?
Any latest helpful information regarding cheating there.?
I have heard you can do up to 800kB/s on popular torrents, but never went above 100kB/s myself. Cheating on packs with partial seeders works fine, but check the peerlist to see if there's at least some activity.
Cheating there is relatively easy. I use the swarm spped in Xtreme mod as the guideline, but keep it more or less below 200.
keep speed below 150kb/s
working fine to me !:biggrin:
Has anyone faced problems if you jump directly as a seed on scene releases?
shawshankraj
21.06.09, 19:38
Has anyone faced problems if you jump directly as a seed on scene releases?
No
But keep speed LOW..
Yep, I'm doing it slowly and so far so good.
got in the site the other day and the top torrent that is leeched is only 27 seeder and 22 leechers :S
Yes, they need more activity. That's the reason they've opened invite "windows" and gave some anytime ones.
wouldnt the low seeders and leecher make it easier for the staff to catch you?
Yes, but ScL's scripts aren't very good. Even faking on packs full of partial seeders works.
wouldnt the low seeders and leecher make it easier for the staff to catch you?
But it makes it also harder to keep a good ratio and therefore people are scared to download and because of that the activity of the tracker decreases which no tracker staff wants to happen. :wink2:
Does the Waffle Method work there?
I haven't tried it, but it should work. Use small rates if you are worried.
I haven't tried it, but it should work. Use small rates if you are worried.
Okey thanks. :wink: Maybe will try later if I dare. You know if ScL is in contact with any other trackers? Would be boring if I got banned from BitmeTV, SCC or something like that just because I cheated on ScL.
shawshankraj
07.08.09, 15:52
Would be boring if I got banned from BitmeTV, SCC or something like that just because I cheated on ScL
I think no...
I believe they are having DVD freeleech this weekend, so it's a nice opportunity to cheat there.
OFFTOPIC: i see a lot of emule clients here, wich one is the best? i need to download a couple of files. Thanks.
OFFTOPIC: i see a lot of emule clients here, wich one is the best? i need to download a couple of files. Thanks.
Only leech if you need to, otherwise you may get faster downloads by uploading (credit system).
If you're new to eMule leecher mods, try Benkei II or Dark Mystery, which have hardcoded settings - no extra stuff to configure.
shawshankraj
08.08.09, 03:50
I have been cheating on couple of DVDR torrent due to free leech with RM so far so good ..
lookng at the snatchlist whike using rm says im not connectable anyway of of changing this?
lookng at the snatchlist whike using rm says im not connectable anyway of of changing this?
Sure, go to network tab and mark the checkbox "Use TCP listener...", make sure you are using a free port on port on advanced tab, i.e., no other program is using that one. If behind router, don't forget to port forward it too. :top:
Plus if you're running multiple RM instances using the same port, doing that on just one of them is enough.
well ratio faker works great for me , but i dont understand abt mratio ? my question is if i download a file from SCL and my client is utorrent so how can i use mratio ??? m ratio doesnt have utorrent option , so any suggestion ?? sry for bad english hope u,ll understand my question
i dont understand abt mratio ? my question is if i download a file from SCL and my client is utorrent so how can i use mratio ??? m ratio doesnt have utorrent option , so any suggestion ??
Yes - use the RatioMaster with a fixed uTorrent emulation (the SB-I updated edition includes these) + memory reader.
Yes - use the RatioMaster with a fixed uTorrent emulation (the SB-I updated edition includes these) + memory reader.
what is best speed for ratio master ? can i upload 400 like tat ??? and rite now i m using ratiofaker it works great for me ,i set my ratiofaker 1.8 to 2.5 mb what i download 1 mb and working good .1 more question when i,ll become a member ????i want to be a member ...
what is best speed for ratio master ? can i upload 400 like tat ???
Up to 800kB/s have been tested. I never went above 100kB/s and my account is fine. The packs are great for faking.
1 more question when i,ll become a member ????i want to be a member ...
Read the announcement again.
shawshankraj
09.08.09, 01:31
what is best speed for ratio master ?
I have tested speed upto 1800 knps there on PAcks even there r no leecher..
would waffle method work?
When u cheat using Vuze Extreme just set the speeds to 1-99 kb/s UL, and make sure u set STOP WHEN SWARM SPEED IS ZERO.
shawshankraj
09.08.09, 12:30
did you mean kBps?
yes I mean KBPS...
When u cheat using Vuze Extreme just set the speeds to 1-99 kb/s UL, and make sure u set STOP WHEN SWARM SPEED IS ZERO.
With Vuze mode on SCL u can't build enough Buffer B'coz OF torrent has not to long seeder activity and means most of torrent have 1 or 2 seeder......
would waffle method work?
It should on packs, I think.
would waffle method work?Tried it..just chose a torrent with more than 10 peers or one from the depot section.
The bad thing that happens to me when I try to cheat at ScL, I made the mistake of uploading TOO MUCH with high speeds in a short while and decided to stop it and close, but when I went back to my ScL account, the amount uploaded showed up. O_o
I thought that it wouldn't update as I've done it before and the uploaded didn't change until I did a manual update or waited til the update of the tracker. Let's hope that I don't get banned. :biggrin:
The bad thing that happens to me when I try to cheat at ScL, I made the mistake of uploading TOO MUCH with high speeds in a short while and decided to stop it and close, but when I went back to my ScL account, the amount uploaded showed up. O_o
Should have terminated the RM process via Task Manager. :tongue:
Stopping the torrent will always send a final announce with your stats.
I did a mistaque like that on iplay and did 6000TB.LOL:eek3:Got me banned.The safest thing to do is to close your internet conection then close RM.
Should have terminated the RM process via Task Manager. :tongue:
Stopping the torrent will always send a final announce with your stats.
Yeah, I learnt my lesson. :biggrin:
I did a mistaque like that on iplay and did 6000TB.LOL:eek3:Got me banned.The safest thing to do is to close your internet conection then close RM.
Uh, just a question, did you sh*t yourself when you saw that? :tongue:
What clientversion do you guys spoof using the Extreme Mod@ScL?
I've tried Bittornado and Azureus, both show up multiple times in the snatchlist and Deluge is "unknown" :frown:
Uh, just a question, did you sh*t yourself when you saw that? :tongue:
What do you think?:tongue:
What do you think?:tongue:
Hehe, IDK.
403 Forbidden
Unauthorized IP address.
Aw, shit...guess they got me. :klatsch_3:
Aw, shit...guess they got me. :klatsch_3:
Change your IP and try to log in. :tongue:
i have been doing for quite sometime here, grab RM and do the necessary-- memory reader, preferably read the Utorrent clients, they seem safer to me, TCP etc etc and RM Restarter, keeps reasonable speeds, speeds like 300-500 are okay, and do it on the packs, when you see large no of leechers that are active.
safely uploaded 5GB+ in one day with RM...Don't forget to use MR ..i used it on a FL pack with high number of leecher and seeder.
you can cheat on ScL with RM with a moderate speed.
i use mRatio at ScL and its working fine :smile:
I already cheated there using mRatio at upload speed of 300-400 Kb/s and i think more speed won't make a problem .It was so easy and the account was safe and with +40 Gb were uploaded :smile:
Bro by the way, It was a pack . Good luck :top:
Try the waffles method and do a ratio of max 2-2,5 at any torrent and some seed time and you will be fine.
Just be careful with older packs, even if they have a lot of peers they might have zero leechers because non 100% seeders are shown as leechers even they are not downloading anything...
Just be careful with older packs
Packs are no problem at ScL if you use moderate speeds :tongue:
mangathala2002
19.08.09, 10:14
I just joined SCL!(after a long time,i had a acc there previously) . Is it ratio-less tracker now? or do i have to maintain a ratio?
I just joined SCL!(after a long time,i had a acc there previously) . Is it ratio-less tracker now? or do i have to maintain a ratio?
scl isn't a ratioless tracker, you'll have to cheat/seed in order to maintain a good ratio..
but you can find "Freeleech" torrents in the "Depot" section.
Normal packs are also always freeleech. :wink2:
mangathala2002
19.08.09, 12:30
scl isn't a ratioless tracker, you'll have to cheat/seed in order to maintain a good ratio..
but you can find "Freeleech" torrents in the "Depot" section.
Normal packs are also always freeleech. :wink2:
So what is the minimum ratio that has to be maintained there?
1 for sure.But if you cheat wiselly you can do like 1,5-2.
So what is the minimum ratio that has to be maintained there?
read scl's faq LOL :smile::
SCL/faq.php
My ScL ratio is still Inf. :cool:
Remember they have a "fluctuating" ratio scheme. The % of your reported upload and download that's recorded changes constantly. You can find the current multiplier at the top of the "Browse" page.
I don't think I read anything about a minimum ratio that has to be maintained before you're on ratio watch. I think the safe bet is to just keep everything around 1 ratio. That's the rule of thumb! :biggrin:
I don't think I read anything about a minimum ratio that has to be maintained before you're on ratio watch. I think the safe bet is to just keep everything around 1 ratio. That's the rule of thumb! :biggrin:
You are partially right but reading rules is my 1st thing to do after joining new tracker because some trackers have some rules like BitMeTV bans users if certain amount of MB aren't used from the account (up or down) monthly and some other trackers ban you if you don't download a certain number of torrents monthly so it isn't a matter oof ratio only. Read the rules this is good for you
ScL has a Lot of FreeLeech Packs. One can maintain a good ratio in ScL without creating and even without uploading anything.
even without uploading anything.
I assume you mean sticking to freeleech packs only... in that case, your ratio would be 0:0, which doesn't put you on a good position when they prune inactive users (which they did quite recently).
we can cheat on scl using rm and mr and vuze recently i cheated using mr with speeds around 50kbps
You can go higher, just make sure you don't flash or use very high speeds. Cheating on packs also works if you take it slow and steady.
Its been a month using RM in fresh torrents with speeds 400 kb/s and a ratio about 2.5 for each torrent with no problems so far
cheating on packs there when they had freeleech going on was great...it was very cool I uploaded 20GB+ that day hehe
the speeds I used were about 2Mb/s down 1.5Mb/s Upload
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