Using RatioFaker Strategically: PART II

[SealLion]

This is Part II of a 2 Part Series involving the strategic use of using Ratio Faker.



Part 1 dealt with Reporting Your Upload as 'X' times your Upload as reported in your client.

Part 1 is located here:


LINK: Using RF Strategically. Part 1. (http://www.sb-innovation.de/f59/using-ratiofaker-strategically-part-i-10511/)

This being Part 2, deals with Reporting Your Upload as 'A' to 'B' times your Download as reported in your client.


CREDIT

Issues of Credit were taken care of in Part I. Go there for reference.



INTENDED AUDIENCE


1. For the complete noob and novice who wants to know how and when to use this particular cheating tool;
2. For the person who wants to complement his own cheating knowledge.



OBJECTIVE


The objectives herein are similiar to the Objectives covered in Part 1 with some additional Objectives to be covered here in Part 2.

These are the following:

1.:A brief discussion on why people may get banned from trackers using RF and how to avoid the same behaviors for getting oneself banned.

2. A brief discussion on the advantages and disadvantages of using RF.

3. Which days of the week to download content from Private Trackers and tracker events so as to increase your ratio building potential,yet still ensure your account's survival without concerns of being compromised.

WHEN TO BEST USE RATIO FAKER WHILE DOWNLOADING CONTENT

1. Best times to use RF for downloading content are the on week-ends including Friday's and holidays and tracker special events. On Holidays, people are either not working or have no schooling and may opt to download content from trackers for their week-end's entertainment. You do the same, don't you??

According to my experiences, these are opportune times to, not only take advantage of downloading material from sites, but even better: To spoof your ratio.

Therefore take advantage of such days. Bookmark torrents or download them when they arrive on the tracker's Torrent List.
Other times to download material is obviously on Ratio-Building occasions or Free Leeches.




FORMULA


READ THE FOLLOWING CAREFULLY TO FULLY UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS.

The formula for using RF while downloading content (during free leeches and week-ends when there are large numbers of peers on a particular torrent is the same as for uploading material to sites and adding from 1.0 to 1.5 to maximum numbers to report for your upload with the following optional addition:

Add 0.5 to-1.5 to both sides of the dialogue boxes Report My Upload as 'A' to ' B' Times My Download inside RF's Control Panel.


Example 1: You've calculated for the following values:
Number of leechers: 6
Torrent file size your downloading: 4 Gb.
6 (leechers) X 0.9=5.4. (Using formula attained from Part 1)

This initial calculation (i.e. 5.4) is your Minimum value for the first dialogue box inside RF.
Your Maximum is 5.4+ 1.0=6.4.

Add an optional 1.0 to both values:
1.0+5.4=6.4(minimum)
1.0+7.4=8.4(maximum)

1.0 falls in between 0.5 and 1.5

Here are some additional examples with stats:


Example 2:

Number of leechers: 2
Torrent Size: approx 400 MB

Formula: 0.7 X 2 (leechers)= 1.4 with an optional 0.5 to 1.5 addition to both dialogue boxes

In other words:

Add from 1.0-1.5 to 1.4 as your minimum

1.4+(1.3) (optional value)=2.7 (minimum)

and

1.4+1.0+(1.3) (optional value) = 3.7 as your maximum

EXAMPLE 3: You've set RF to report your Upload as 1.2 (minimum) to 3.5(maximum) X Your Download.

Add 0.7 (the optional addition) to both 1.2 and 3.5

Shown here:

A. 1.2+0.7=1.9 (can round up to 2.0 if desired)
B. 3.5+0.7=4.2 (can round down to 4.0 if desired)

0.7 falls in between 0.5 and 1.5 for the optional addition you can add to both RF's minimum and maximum calculated values

Here's what the settings are inside RF on a recent trip to a tracker in which I downloaded some content:


http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/8149/rf8118uandd.jpg



Stats for the above settings were derived from the following numbers:


Number of leechers: 2 (not including me)
Numer of seeders: 3
Torrent file size: approx 80 Mb.

Formula: 2 (leechers) X 0.7=1.4 (minimum value)
(In this particular instance, I decided to increase upwards to 1.5. Thus the minimum value of 1.5 as shown in the pic above.)

1.4+1.1=2.5 (maximum value)



After some time has passed on the tracker, here's an update inside RF:

I also adjusted the formula to compensate for the increase in leechers. I incrementally increased the values.


Here's a pic:

http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/1451/rf85218uanddpumpeditupm.jpg


Now after some additional time has passed and the tracker has made another update, look where I am now:



http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/9246/rf8418uanddlookwhereiam.jpg



Now after I noticed that some additional leechers entered the scene, I decided to pump-up the juice.

Here's a pic.
Look.
I am right at the top!!


http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/9131/rf8618uanddimatthetop.jpg



You do not need to keep the values for both your minimum and maximum values constant.

I highly recommend that you allow your settings to become dynamic.

I will now illustrate for you an example on downloading on a week-end with a large peer base and a large torrent file size.


Torrent file size: Larger than 4 Gb.
Number of leechers: over 10
Number of seeders: over 10
Occasion or date: Week-end


Formula:

10 (leechers) X 1.0= 10.0 (min. value)

10.0+1.0=11.0 (max. value)

Optional addition:

Min. value: 10.0+0.5=10.5 (new min. value)
Max. value: 11.0+0.5=11.5 (new max. value)




NOTE: In the pic below, in knowing quite well that this torrent was popular, I intentionally strayed away from my own formula and pumped up the max. value to over 15.0.


Thus:

http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/4505/rf92.jpg



You too can do this dependent upon your knowledge of torrent's popularity, file size, and peer numbers. These are elements I suggest you consider when downloading a torrent.

If you do consider such elements, you'll be more successful in your ratio spoofing.


For example:

Popular torrents: Porn torrents, popular movies, popular and current music, newest warez or applications torrents, or scene torrents. I highly suggest you consider such torrent elements.

Remember, the formula is a guide only. It is not written in stone.

Eventually, the number of leechers and seeders increased.

Click on the bar to view the increase in leechers.


http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/7082/rf90.jpg



Now because I want to ensure my account's survival, I decided to maintain my current settings for both the min. and max. values.

I did this based on the following reasons:

1. My ratio on this torrent site including for this particular torrent was not lacking;
2. I wanted to ensure I remain undetectable and ensure my account's survival.
Thus there was no change in my settings inside RF.

These are events and circumstances that you, the ratio-cheater, need to consider and understand. Don't be foolish and cheat like a nut-head.


Nevertheless, here's a pic to demonstrate the upload amount I had reported to the tracker via RF:



http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/4151/rf91lotsofleechers.jpg



Look at the bottom of that pic. You'll see the setting that RF used (including the modified amount) to report my modified upload.
Nice, huh:biggrin:


NOTE: The smaller values that you see above the bottom setting are the previous incremental settings that I used with RF.


Eventually, I came to the results shown below. What you'll see there is an actual decrease in RF settings. This is because as the number of seeder began to grow (me included), there came to be less and less leechers.

Eventually, there was only one leecher left and I decided it would be in my best interest to tone down RF's use.

Remember Part 1 in which I briefly discussed the importance of 'toning down' or reducing your settings??

This is one of those occasions.

It would look ridiculous to spoof upload 5 Gb when that leecher, as reported in your client, displays that he's got 80% of the torrent downloaded and the torrent is only approx. 4 Gb in size.

Thus the reduction is settings. This is crucial that you understand this. Your account's survival is a consideration when using any cheating tool.



http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/3361/rf93neededtoslowdownbec.jpg



This concludes the tutorial section for RF.

I will now briefly discuss with you some of the possible reasons that people, I feel who use RF, get banned.



POSSIBLE REASONS FOR BEING BANNED WHILE USING RF:



1. Unreasonable settings that are used in RF.

Use the formula as a guide. Reduce or adjust the settings as per your comfort level. This is crucial you become aware of this.

2. Inexperience in cheating. Use this tutorial as a guide. My settings and calculations worked for me. It may work for you, too.
Keep in mind, the numbers to use for your calculations are not written in stone. They can change.

3. Refusing to ensure dynamic settings within RF as situations change. In particular when the leecher count decreases.


Using a cheat mod or tool is entirely dependent upon the torrent file size, peer numbers, day of the week (at least IMO), and tracker events. Use this knowledge to increase your success with RF and any other tool, including Greedy Torrent.



ADVANTAGES AND DISADVANTAGES OF USING RF


Advantages:



1. Easy to use.
2. Consistent updates to program (at least so far)
3. Good scripts written into the tool


Disadvantages:

1. Having to continually stop your client to make adjustments to the setting and/or mode. Quite an inconvenience. :frown:




DISCLAIMER


Basically, the same disclaimer as written in Part 1.


1. If you get ban-hammered to death augmenting or using any information set forth in my tutorial, it's your fault, not mine.
I'm just the messenger. Take your complaint to management. I'm not management.


2. The information set forth in this tutorial is meant as a guide only. Use your discretion when cheating.

3. The information I set forth in this tutorial has helped me in my cheating experiences. It may help you as well. In particular, the formula.





If you've found this tutorial useful and beneficial to you, please do 'thank' me. It gives me an idea of whether or not I've helped you. I would tend to believe that I have.

Best of success in your cheating endeavors. :wink:

Yes!! You can!!!



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[kazuya]

Now even the most complicated Vuze looks like a charm to handle then this:biggrin:

[hitman]

but its better to have full knowledge of the settings and know what the values are instead of just move the button from 1 to 2 and hope that they will not bann you :biggrin:

[SealLion]

Now even the most complicated Vuze looks like a charm to handle then this:biggrin:

LOL. Ya, it probably is. LOL. :smile:


The calculations are basically a guide to get people set up. AFter that, you basically go on the fly like I did afterwards. :smile:

Doing math is a good place to start off with when your in unfamiliar territory.

Using math is a way for one to help navigate himself into the settings.

That's why I did that: To get people to started and then after that, probably after 2-3 times in using RF, they pretty much have a good idea of what to use without the intervention of using math for their settings.


But ya. I know your just kidding around, kazuya. :smile:

[Pingu]

Hey, great tut! I didn't really trusted RF but it seems quite good, I would like to ask some questions though:

ATM the project is stopped, is it known to have problems with newer utorrent versions? up to what build can i use to be sure?

Now regarding the tut:
you say your math is to get an idea of what to do, but i was thinking, for example in TL, the games that are newly released often have around 500 leechers for one week or so, would it be ok to just snatch one of those and set thwe download multiplier to something small like 1,5 to 1,9 and leave it running for a day or two?
stopping the client is necessary? cause as i've seen in the tut, being in the peerlist is not a problem...

Thanks!

[SealLion]

Welcome to my tutorial. :biggrin::smile:

Firstly, I have no idea if the project is stopped.

I think that one would have to go and visit the program website and ask the author himself.

Keep in mind, perhaps he has had to delay updating it due to family concerns, newer job, or what-ever. I can't really speak on someone's else's behalf if I'm not familiar with that person's circumstances.

Maybe he just gave up on it. Sorry, but I really don't know.

Other than that, I personnally have used it up to v 1.84.

Here's what you can do to check yourself up to what versions it works beyound v1.84:

Go to a cheap tracker site. Like Glabella.org or any cheap torrent site in which your not overly concerned about being banned.


1. Download a higher version uT
2. use RF and the higher version uT.
3. See what the results are within that version of uT and RF as well as on the tracker side Very Important!!
4. Post your results here as to the highest level version of uT that is workable with RF.



Regarding your idea. I can't say that it wouuldn't work. It would make sense to have it at that. Considering that your downloading (and uploading to other's..in this case, over 500 peers, that's a lot of peers to upload to and wouldn't really be unusual to be uploading a great amount to that many peers).

If your asking me my opinion re: securing your account's continued survival by doing this. I'd say go for it. There's plenty of leechers if there's 500 people on one torrent.
Plenty of room for you to hide as well.


It would not be unusual to have uplaoded a large amount of meta data if the peerlist is over 500 strong.
If there's a peer list on TL for each torrent, being seen by some peers to have uploaded to others (while your downloading), let's say over 1 GB or 400 MB if you like, wouldn't be unusual.
I'd say that your safe then.

Now with stopping the client. According to the author's website, Yes. You do need to stop it.

If you've seen in my tut that I was in the peerlist, that's only b/c I stopped the program, took a snapshot, and then re-started the whole thing so that I was in the peerlist. That's how that is that I am in the peerlist.

In my personal experience, the program doesn't record your amounts correctly unless you do so.

Unfortunately.

With other Programs like greedytorrent, that isn't necessary. But you may take yur pick as to which you'd like to use. RF is just as good as GT.

[anon]

you say your math is to get an idea of what to do, but i was thinking, for example in TL, the games that are newly released often have around 500 leechers for one week or so, would it be ok to just snatch one of those and set thwe download multiplier to something small like 1,5 to 1,9 and leave it running for a day or two?

I guess so, although in that case you'd only be reporting your real upload, since you've already snatched the torrent. In that case, RF resorts to reporting real up, so that you can continue "faking".

But using the download multiplier as you leech on TL works just fine.


If there's a peer list on TL for each torrent, being seen by some peers to have uploaded to others (while your downloading), let's say over 1 GB or 400 MB if you like, wouldn't be unusual.
I'd say that your safe then.

They don't have a peerlist - with 160000+ members, can you imagine the server load on popular releases? :tongue:

[Pingu]

dind't really thought that, so just start it with 1,5 to 1,9 and when it finishes deactivate it cause it would be the same, right?

[anon]

Yes. That way you'll have a ratio between 1.5 and 1.9 on that torrent.

[Pingu]

I'll keep asking here, sorry for spamming the GT thread

So what you mean is that if you don't stop the torrent the tracker will keep getting the announces of the previous configuration you had on RF?

[anon]

So what you mean is that if you don't stop the torrent the tracker will keep getting the announces of the previous configuration you had on RF?

Basically, yes, and you don't want that.

[Pingu]

maybe i do want that, bacause of what i said previously, just pick a torrent that can maintain at least 300 leechers for a couple of days, set RF to 1,5 to 1,9 the DL and get it, that's it


EDIT: any comments on this?

[anon]

pick a torrent that can maintain at least 300 leechers for a couple of days, set RF to 1,5 to 1,9 the DL and get it, that's it

Then what's the problem with doing it normally..?

[Instab]

just pick a torrent that can maintain at least 300 leechers for a couple of days

running a fake tool for days is not good. too many things could happen.
actually i wouldn't recommend to run any tool without observation.

[Pingu]

Then what's the problem with doing it normally..?

don't get you, what you mean "normally"?

[anon]

Stop the torrent, set the download multiplier to 1.5-1.9, and restart it...

[Pingu]

why would i stop it? i open RF, set 1,5-1,9 load the torrent in ut, come back a few hours later when it has finished DL and delete it, when does the stopping part comes into play?

[anon]

It's OK, then. I thought you were going to add the torrent while RF had already been running with different settings.

[Pingu]

oh, ok, so we are ok now xD
I don't want a big fat ratio, just want to be able to DL the things I want and stop them whenever I want.

Sticking to this tool then, thanks for all the clarifiactions!

[Pingu]

Hello there, i have a question, is there any thread where i can find a list of trackers where it's safe to use RF?

SealLion: can you post a list of the ones you have used without problems?

Thanks!

[anon]

Hello there, i have a question, is there any thread where i can find a list of trackers where it's safe to use RF?

While not a list per se, you can find such info in the "tracker cheating table" thread.

[Brent.M]

I haven't got time at the moment to re-read though the guide so apologies if it has already been mentioned

My speeds are:
up: 30kB/s
down: 800kB/s

As you can see, cheating is essential. :/

Anyway,
Find out what your average upload speed if in your area/country because I was banned for uploading at a speed higher than my country actually provides.

I had RF set to 0.7** - 1.0** times my download. But because I was downloading the torrent at 800kB/s (there for fake uploading roughly the same speed) I was spotted.

So, be sure to set your real download to whatever your country/isp average upload speed is.


edit:

From what I have heard, better be careful when using the download multiplier at What. You may want to limit your download speed so as to send an steady fake upload.

Seems really obvious to me now. Ah well, you live and let learn.

[Instab]

thanks for sharing what happened to you but a bit more info would help.
afaik there're not many trackers who are actually checking member's bandwidth so where did you get banned?

also what torrent app did you use? did you try that method on other trackers? what kind of torrent got you banned? how many seeders/leechers? ...

you see there're much more useful things to know so it might help others ...

[Brent.M]

RevTT.
Utorrent.

I had only joined last week and was banned 2 days after.
I had only downloaded 1 file too. The torrent was a new upload which has about 30/40 seeders/leechers.

I have become too comfortable with FR as I have been using it problem free for 2 years now on several big trackers with the same method. In a way it was a good wakeup call.

[Instab]

what ut version?
RF is known to have issüs with ut version newer than 1.8.2

[Brent.M]

Really? 1.8.5

[Instab]

Really? 1.8.5

yes :biggrin:
check the RF thread.

you might wanna switch to greedy torrent (GT) but the download as upload function there has no randomizer so vuze comes to mind ...

also have a look into the RevTT thread. they upgraded a number of things recently.

[Brent.M]

Will do, thanks.

Also I forgot to mention; I didn't found out why I was banned until I went and asked in the RevTT help IRC channel... ..:rolling_eyes:

The admin asked to confirm my ISP was and then said, roughly"800kB/s - This is England not Sweden FFS"

[Instab]

Will do, thanks.

no prob and there's a button for that :wink:



Also I forgot to mention; I didn't found out why I was banned until I went and asked in the RevTT help IRC channel... ..:rolling_eyes:

The admin asked to confirm my ISP was and then said, roughly"800kB/s - This is England not Sweden FFS"

hehe, yes, RevTT is known to do that every so often. but that also means that RF was fine.

[anon]

I had RF set to 0.7** - 1.0** times my download. But because I was downloading the torrent at 800kB/s (there for fake uploading roughly the same speed) I was spotted.

Although it seems they did, it probably wasn't necessary for them to check your country's speeds to know those 800kB/s weren't real - I'm inclined to think you stood out in the peerlist, specially if the torrent had few leechers.

[Instab]

if the numbers are correct i think 30 leechers is quite a lot for RevTT

[anon]

i think 30 leechers is quite a lot for RevTT

Some of the most well-leeched movies have over 50 leechers, but some of them may be partial seeders that didn't download the sample.

[Instab]

of course there are torrents with more leechers there. just not many and not often

[SBfreak]

Most of them who don't cheat rely on the irc bonus.Still that doesn't explain the low number of leechers.

[Instab]

on ScL the leecher count is even less

[SBfreak]

By all means respect SCL stoped being an awesome tracker one year ago.I 'm astonished that's still alive.

[Instab]

By all means respect SCL stoped being an awesome tracker one year ago.I 'm astonished that's still alive.

indeed. although i don't see a reason to be on RevTT either ...
but it's going off topic again :tongü:

[anon]

indeed. although i don't see a reason to be on RevTT either ...

It's a nice tracker with lots of content and peers, makes a great combo along TL.

[SBfreak]

indeed. although i don't see a reason to be on RevTT either ...TL+RevTT=awesome.(they make a great combination)

but it's going off topic again

When we 3 are online all forum goes offtopic.:biggrin:

[Instab]

TL+RevTT=awesome.(they make a great combination)

IPT & SCC is also nice



When we 3 are online all forum gös offtopic.:biggrin:

hehe, at least today that seems to be trü :redface: